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alohaahola/Benpu: Magic Letter for getting interview after first rejection
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发信人: alohaahola (crazydoc), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: {三月征文,谢绝置顶} Emory University Neurology (Atlanta, GA)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 25 11:09:23 2009)

I got this IV after sending the “Magic Letter” to PD in early November. A
friend gave me a template of the letter but I think it was originally from
Benpu. I would recommend people apply next year to send the letter to the
programs that you have not got IVs or rejections by the 1st week of November
. This applies to small specialties such as Neuro/Anesthesia/Path/Psych, etc
., It may not work for IM; PDs from smaller specialties do read emails and
respond to candidates.

There are 8 positions at Emory and 6 of them are combined 4-year program.
There was a catered dinner at one of the resident’s house the night before.
I was not able to make it so can’t really comment on it but was told it
was nice. They provided one-night hotel stay at Emory Inn.

During interview day, the PD, Dr. Khan gave an overview of the program
followed by a brief talk by the Chair. Then the interview process began. The
interesting thing is all the interviews are 15-minute length and there was
basically no break time between. It feels like “8-minute dating”. Each
candidate had 5 interviews and we were shuffled among different faculty
members by the PC and a secretary non-stop. It was their full-time job for
those 2.5 hours. Some people may not like this way but I am ok with it.

Interviews: Since they currently have IMGs with a lot of research background
in their residency; they know what it is like to take someone who is out of
school for a while. So not the normal questions such as “are you going to
be adjusted to US health care system?” “What is the biggest challenge you
are expecting?” We mainly had conversations about stuff on my CV and what I
think my future career goal will be. They are strong on Sleep Studies which
is what I am interested. Quite a few faculty members have MD/PhDs and they
regard research achievements highly. One of the interviewer who graduated
from the program asked me what I learned during my Observership about the
importance of efficient communication. I think it was interesting question.
Since she graduated from the program, I asked her what she thinks the best
asset and most challenging aspect of the program are; she said “Large
patient volume” for both.

When the AM interviews were over, we had a tour of the Emory hospital and
the medical school, which are quite nice. We then had a “Driving Miss.
Daisy to Grady” tour. Since the movie “Driving Miss Daisy” was filmed in
Atlanta, we had a professor who is a big time old-fashioned southerner give
us a van tour around town, we were shown the fancy neighborhood where the
movie was made as well as where Sanjay Gupta lives (he also commented that
“Neurologist used to be able to afford this neighborhood but those days are
gone; this area is now dominated by Cardiologists, Attorneys, and CEOs”).
We then toured the downtown area and arrived at Grady Hospital.

Grady Hospital is the “famous” inner city hospital where the patient
population is almost exclusive minority. They are extremely busy there and I
heard a lot of stories about it from different people (they do work you 80
hours for PGY-1 and PGY-2 years). Anyway, it was what you would expect from
an inner city hospital, except that this one is really big. We had a wrap-up
at Grady and they arranged transportation to the airport for us.

Finally, the general consensus is that programs in the South are not
friendly to IMGs. However, I did see quite a few IMGs at Emory and people
are pretty open-minded and they do things much faster than the traditional
southern way. It reminds me a lot of the Northeast. I guess it is because
Atlanta is a big city and there are many transplants from other parts of the
country.
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发信人: knockingdown (麦地撂M倒), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: {三月征文,谢绝置顶} Emory University Neurology (Atlant
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 25 12:00:27 2009), 转信

非常同意你说的11月初要和program联系,来年的朋友要注意了。病理也很有用么,你
肯定有feedback才这么说的。

内科其实也应该发发信,至少不损失啥。虽然PD不怎么看,不过多一个IV也行呀。没有
多拿IV的同学也不要失望,至少努力一下。



发信人: benpu (麦地大奔-Think or Sink), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: {三月征文,谢绝置顶} Emory University Neurology (Atlanta,
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 25 12:00:55 2009)

是不是老毕给你的?我可是收龙虾做报酬的,哈哈。

信怎么写,我已经写过帖子了,大家见仁见智。

发信的时机我觉得也很重要。你也提到了,我就总结一下,造福大家。

1。11月1日确实是很重要的日子。两个原因。
(a)因为你如果在9月1日报名,11月1日前应该是第一批IV已经到了。如果没消息的pg,
就要争取了:本来在waiting list上的,争取排到更前面;本来turn down但还没收到
拒信的,争取上waiting list。
(b)MSPE出来了,AMG大量涌入。所以要尽量在11月1日前发,之后一段时间一是竞争激
烈,二是PD可能没时间看了。

2。在12月中到1月中,这个时候,cancel IV的多起来了,要抓好这个时机。PD的心态
也变了,为了保证fill the slots,IV从买方市场(PD主动)向卖方市场(你主动)变化。
你写的,他仔细看的可能更大,你的机会也越大。

3。可以一个pg多发几次。每次有些新鲜的话汇报。这种行为就表明了你对他们的感兴
趣程度,应该是加分的。发到得到明确回答为止--IV or reject(虽然大多数是不回的)。

4。没回音的都发,给reject也可以发。你已经付了钱了,之后支付的不过是写信发信
的时间。付了钱,你就有和他联系(不是骚扰)的权利,要想尽办法把权利用到极致。
说不定就精诚所至金石为开了呢?我就有一个rejection letter还没发出来的,PD直接
override给我IV了。

5。心态要好。很多是不给回复的,不要灰心。不给回复也是好事,就是没给rejection,
你还有机会。把信好好改改,继续发。给你rejection的,也别不理人家。感谢别人
的开诚布公,和evaluate你的时间。这么说吧,人品好总有回报的,呵呵。

今天最后一天,祝我们心想事成。

另外,麻烦斑竹把我以前写的有关自荐信的和这个合一下,希望对后来人有些借鉴意义。

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