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联邦 ATF 对有关持非移民签证者持枪问题的答复
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标  题: 联邦 ATF 对有关持非移民签证者持枪问题的答复
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 27 01:48:17 2017, 美东)

这事起因于在几个微信群里的争论,焦点在于持非移民签证者,如果不符合其它豁免条
件,是否要保持有效猎照才能继续持有以前合法购买的枪。另外,到靶场租枪打枪算不
算持有 (possession)。

下面是一些观点,认为只要买枪时合法,不用继续保持有效猎照。
“所以如果有人说有猎照才可以”possess“枪是不严谨的,如何合法“possess”枪在
每个州是不同的。“possess”和“onwership”是不同的概念,当你合法买得枪,拥有
(ownership)这把枪就是合法的。和是否有猎照已经没有任何关系。”

“ 但对于那些用猎照作为依据合法买了枪,但由于某些原因后来不能合法买猎照的朋
友,只要你没犯刑事罪,而且这个罪禁止你用枪,那么没有猎照你不用担心,你的枪买
时是合法拥有的,现在仍然合法拥有,你不需要新的没过期的猎照。因为你以前的猎照
虽然过期了,但依然是"a hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the
United States" ”

“比如你买枪时是2014年,你买枪是的猎照是”美国内合法发放的猎照“,那么先在这
个猎照虽然过期了,但它依然是”美国内合法发放的猎照“,符合这个条款的定义。”

我对此抱有怀疑,就发了 Email 到 ATF 的 Firearms Industry Programs Branch 去
问。他们说 90 天内回复,但今天居然就收到答案了,正好一周。全文如下:

Mr. XXX,

Thank you for your recent inquiry to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives (ATF). This is in response to your email, in which
you inquired about nonimmigrant aliens who have entered the United States on
a nonimmigrant visa.

Your questions (Q) and our answers (A) follow:

Q1: For example, one such non-immigrant alien was holding a valid hunting
license when he purchased a firearm through an FFL. But later on he didn't
renew the hunting license when it expired and now he is not in possession of
any valid hunting license. He also does not fall in any other exceptions
stipulated under 922(y). My question is, is he now in violation of 922(g)(5)
(B) and illegally possessing the firearm he legally purchased previously?

A:  The definition of a for a Hunting license or permit lawfully issued in
the United States is found in 27 CFR 478.11 (注1) which states, in part: A
license or permit issued by a State for hunting which is valid and unexpired
.  Accordingly, the license or permit or permit must remain valid and
unexpired to possess such firearm after acquisition.

Q2: Does the definition of "possession" in 922(g)(5)(B) also include non-
immigrant alien such as foreign tourist renting/shooting firearms in a
commercial or private target range?

A:  922(g)(5)(B) pertains to only to nonimmigrant aliens admitted to the
United States on a nonimmigrant visa.  It does not apply to other lawfully
admitted nonimmigrants who were not admitted on a nonimmigrant visa (i.e.,
visa waiver nonimmigrants, Canadian citizens not requiring a nonimmigrant
visa, etc.).  Please see Page 2 of the March 2013 Newsletter (注2) which has
relevant information pertaining to rental of firearms at shooting ranges.

In addition, there may be State laws that pertain to this proposed activity.
Contact State Police units or the office of your State Attorney General (
www.naag.org) for information on any such requirements.

We trust the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. Should you have
additional questions, please contact your local ATF office. A listing of ATF
office phone numbers can be found at: https://www.atf.gov/contact/atf-field
-divisions.

Regards,

L. Babbie | Firearms Enforcement Specialist
U.S. Department of Justice | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
Explosives

Firearms Industry Programs Branch
99 New York Avenue NE, Mail Stop 6.N-518
Washington, DC 20226

从这里可以得出几个结论:
1. 猎照必须是“有效且未过期”(valid and unexpired)的。请看注1里"Hunting
license or permit lawfully issued in the United States"的定义。
2. 即使在靶场里租枪和打枪也完全符合持有(possession)的定义,持非移民签证者也
要完全遵守有关的限制和豁免条件。请看注2里"Rental of Firearms On-Premises"一
段。
3. 比较有趣的是,如果是根据免签证协议(Visa Waiver Program)入境者或者加拿大公
民无签证入境,就不符合 922(g)(5)(B) 的定义也不受限制。

很高兴这个问题有了一个明确的答案,能对涉及的广大持非移民签证者特别是中国同胞
知法守法有所帮助,以防跌倒。

注1:27 CFR 478.11 - Meaning of Terms.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/478.11

注2:ATF FFL Newsletter, March 2013
https://tinyurl.com/lrrhdj3




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很重要很好的帖子。建议大家仔细读读并多转发。




【 在 doublepar (shoot straight) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这事起因于在几个微信群里的争论,焦点在于持非移民签证者,如果不符合其它豁免条
: 件,是否要保持有效猎照才能继续持有以前合法购买的枪。另外,到靶场租枪打枪算不
: 算持有 (possession)。
: 下面是一些观点,认为只要买枪时合法,不用继续保持有效猎照。
: “所以如果有人说有猎照才可以”possess“枪是不严谨的,如何合法“possess”枪在
: 每个州是不同的。“possess”和“onwership”是不同的概念,当你合法买得枪,拥有
: (ownership)这把枪就是合法的。和是否有猎照已经没有任何关系。”
: “ 但对于那些用猎照作为依据合法买了枪,但由于某些原因后来不能合法买猎照的朋
: 友,只要你没犯刑事罪,而且这个罪禁止你用枪,那么没有猎照你不用担心,你的枪买
: 时是合法拥有的,现在仍然合法拥有,你不需要新的没过期的猎照。因为你以前的猎照
: ...................



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