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原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
[版面:美国新闻][首篇作者:cellcycle] , 2020年05月29日17:46:31 ,1001次阅读,10次回复
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发信人: cellcycle (vacoule), 信区: USANews
标  题: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 29 17:46:31 2020, 美东)

technical terms: 1st degree is premeditated, 2nd degree is not. they are
both intentional. 3rd degree is manslaughter.

1st degree murder is premeditated, i.e. i stalk someone over a few days and
plan their murder.

2nd degree is more a heat of the moment thing, i.e. i walk in on my wife
doing the frick frack with someone and i beat the guy to death. expanding on
this, if i walk in on them and go get my gun from the other room and then
shoot them, that would be 1st degree because i had time to change my mind.

there is technically no 3rd degree; its manslaughter. there are 2 types,
involuntary and voluntary.

voluntary would be if me and my friend get in a fight, and i punch them and
without intending to kill them, they die.

involuntary would be if me and my girlfriend are taking a walk on a
cliffside and i trip and fall into her and she falls off the cliff, or me
and my friend are fighting and i punch them and they fall and hit their head
and die.
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发信人: cellcycle (vacoule), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 29 17:48:02 2020, 美东)

如果没法证明 警察有意的,还是 3rd 能 convict 可能性 大的多!

要不也许会被释放。。。



【 在 cellcycle (vacoule) 的大作中提到: 】
: technical terms: 1st degree is premeditated, 2nd degree is not. they are
: both intentional. 3rd degree is manslaughter.
: 1st degree murder is premeditated, i.e. i stalk someone over a few days
and
: plan their murder.
: 2nd degree is more a heat of the moment thing, i.e. i walk in on my wife
: doing the frick frack with someone and i beat the guy to death. expanding
on
:  this, if i walk in on them and go get my gun from the other room and then
: shoot them, that would be 1st degree because i had time to change my mind.
: there is technically no 3rd degree; its manslaughter. there are 2 types,
: involuntary and voluntary.
: ...................



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发信人: Ignius (Hyperion), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 29 17:48:50 2020, 美东)

Minnesota law originally defined third-degree murder solely as depraved-
heart murder ("without intent to effect the death of any person, caus[ing]
the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others
and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life").
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发信人: jollyl (砖石老五), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 29 17:49:26 2020, 美东)

这个算合理吧,如果有罪就是误杀,还有可能无罪
【 在 cellcycle (vacoule) 的大作中提到: 】
: technical terms: 1st degree is premeditated, 2nd degree is not. they are
: both intentional. 3rd degree is manslaughter.
: 1st degree murder is premeditated, i.e. i stalk someone over a few days
and
: plan their murder.
: 2nd degree is more a heat of the moment thing, i.e. i walk in on my wife
: doing the frick frack with someone and i beat the guy to death. expanding
on
:  this, if i walk in on them and go get my gun from the other room and then
: shoot them, that would be 1st degree because i had time to change my mind.
: there is technically no 3rd degree; its manslaughter. there are 2 types,
: involuntary and voluntary.
: ...................



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发信人: cheerbeng (蹦蹦), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 05:38:18 2020, 美东)

刚看个路人拍的
https://youtu.be/zaGmz4DPlJw
视频里面大约5分钟左右开始就没动了 貌似没呼吸了已经  直到救护人员来了检查脉搏
的时候那个警察都没移开他的膝盖  要弄上担架他才移开  一动不动的情况下他还膝盖
顶着大约3分半钟

视频里面他就已经膝盖顶着8分半钟,实际肯定是更久,正常人都会累了换个姿势吧。
真觉得路人说他是enjoy的没说错,估计他当时内在就是处于一个兴奋状态。



【 在 jollyl (砖石老五) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个算合理吧,如果有罪就是误杀,还有可能无罪
: and
: on



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发信人: ai1901 (笑看众生), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 10:40:56 2020, 美东)

看了标题吓一跳,以为又有新案子了,三年级谋杀案,这什么世道!



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发信人: cellcycle (vacoule), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 11:24:16 2020, 美东)

三级谋杀 和 世道的关系是??


【 在 ai1901(笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 看了标题吓一跳,以为又有新案子了,三年级谋杀案,这什么世道!
<br>
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发信人: ai1901 (笑看众生), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 11:51:30 2020, 美东)

哦,你还没看出来。三级谋杀是 third-degree murder,你的标题说 third grade,那
是三年级的意思。连三年级的小学生都敢谋杀人了,这什么世道!

【 在 cellcycle (vacoule) 的大作中提到: 】
: 三级谋杀 和 世道的关系是??
: <br>: 看了标题吓一跳,以为又有新案子了,三年级谋杀案,这什么世道!
: <br>



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发信人: ai1901 (笑看众生), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 11:51:50 2020, 美东)

哦,你还没看出来。三级谋杀是 third-degree murder,你的标题说 third grade,那
是三年级的意思。连三年级的小学生都敢谋杀人了,这什么世道!

【 在 cellcycle (vacoule) 的大作中提到: 】
: 三级谋杀 和 世道的关系是??



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标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 11:52:21 2020, 美东)

靠莫非你现在才知道……

起诉三级谋杀说明这检方是真干活的,想把他搞进去。

起诉一级谋杀,然后无罪释放,是行为艺术的另一种玩法。
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发信人: ai1901 (笑看众生), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 原来 3rd grade murder 就是 manslaughter !
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 30 12:01:55 2020, 美东)

对,在那个 county AG 的记者会里就有提到,他们不愿意过度求刑,以免案子被
botch 掉。

【 在 Milanol (米兰醇) 的大作中提到: 】
: 靠莫非你现在才知道……
: 起诉三级谋杀说明这检方是真干活的,想把他搞进去。
: 起诉一级谋杀,然后无罪释放,是行为艺术的另一种玩法。



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