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击剑VS武士刀
[版面:武术][首篇作者:twobucks] , 2015年10月08日15:35:09 ,742次阅读,3次回复
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发信人: twobucks (buck), 信区: MartialArts
标  题: 击剑VS武士刀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct  8 15:35:09 2015, 美东)

Exiting fights












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发信人: twobucks (buck), 信区: MartialArts
标  题: Re: 击剑VS武士刀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct  8 15:45:16 2015, 美东)

steve tak kin kwan   4 months ago (edited)  
katana ( japanese samurai sword) which held by two hands, movements are
powerful (slashing and cutting and some thrusting), yet relatively,
movements are relative big, which might expose oneself large body area
opened up for being attack, swing/ slashing/ cutting movements of the katana
also relatively taken up more time and telegraphed the intentions. Fencing
using thrusting and poking movements with foil, sabre( slashng , cutting as
well), motions are fast, agile and small ( straight line is the shortest
distance). One hand controls(i.e. wrist movements)foil, is faster,more agile
than two hands controls the katana , but two hands motions are powerful and
strong for diagonal cuttings. Therefore,a fencing practitioner uses
straight back and forth movements for fast attacks( straight line), to
counter,a kenjutsu( recommend kenjutsu more than kendo)should use side steps
and circling foot works ( non- linear line, circling) to deflect and evade
the initial fencing forward frontal attack, and following with side steps
and circling foot works and body movements to get aside to the side of the
opponent, then finish with a lethal  slashing or cutting or thrusting.  Both
the western fencing and the japanese Kenjutsu style martial arts have
advantages and disadvantages, the practitioner' s skills, techniques,
tactics, experience, mental and spiritual ability determine the final
outcome. Chinese martial arts (weapons) have both the styles ( single hand
held sword(two sided sharp and pointed tip) and broadsword( one side sharp)
) with circular body movements and  foot works, Chinese martial weapons also
have two handed held long sword  style( the sword is called "miao dao/ 苗刀
", slightly curved, overall longer than the katana) with back and forth as
well as circular body movements and footworks.

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Foil: - The foil is a decendent of the light court sword used by nobility to
train for duels.  It has a flexible, rectangular blade about 35 inches in
length, and weighing less than a pound.  Points are scored with the tip of
the blade on valid target: the torso from shoulders to groin in the front,
and to the waist in the back.  The arms, head, neck, and legs are considered
off target.  Because foil actions often occur at blinding speed, an
electrical scoring system was devised to detect hits on valid target. Each
foil has a blunt, spring-loaded button at the point of the blade that must
be depressed to register a hit. The foil fencer’s uniform features an
electrically wired metallic vest called a lamé - a hit to the lamé causes
the scoring machine to display a colored light on the side of the fencer
that scored the touch. Meanwhile, a hit off target - on the arms, legs or
head, which are not covered by the lamés - causes the machine to display a
white light. Off target hits stop the action of the match temporarily, but
do not result in a touch being awarded. 

•Epee - The epee (pronounced “EPP-pay” - literally meaning "sword"
in French) is the descendant of the dueling sword, but is heavier, weighing
approximately 27 ounces, with a stiffer, thicker blade and a larger guard.
As in foil, touches are scored only with the point of the blade, however in
epee the entire body, head-to-toe, is valid target - much like in an actual
duel. Similar to the foil, the point of the epee is fixed with a blunt,
spring-loaded button. However, the epee tip requires force than in foil to
register a touch with the scoring machine (basically, epee fencers have to
hit harder). Because the entire body is a valid target area, epee fencers do
not have to wear a metallic lamé. There is no concept of "off-target" in
epee - anything goes. 

•Sabre (or saber) - The sabre is the modern version of the slashing
cavalry sword. As such, the major difference between sabre and the other two
weapons is that sabreists can score with the edge of their blade as well as
their point. In sabre, the target area is the entire body above the waist,
excluding the hands. The lower half is not valid target, which is meant to
simulate a cavalry rider on a horse.  As in foil, the sabre fencer’s
uniform features an electrically wired metallic lamé, which fully covers
their valid target area. Because the head is valid target area, the fencer's
mask is also electrically wired. One significant departure from foil is
that off-target hits do not register on the scoring machine, and therefore
do not halt the fencing action. Sabre fencing is also the first of the three
weapons to feature a wireless scoring system.


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发信人: antiwheel (¤!逆火轮¤!), 信区: MartialArts
标  题: Re: 击剑VS武士刀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 27 10:52:13 2015, 美东)

拿长刀的要敢于上大步连续两三下攻击。
使剑的要前突找空。
原地斗刀头,什么都练不到,没意思。
【 在 twobucks (buck) 的大作中提到: 】
: Exiting fights
: vhttp://www.youtube.com/v/08W3p89Eank
: vhttp://www.youtube.com/v/m0CSrUrfA98
: vhttp://www.youtube.com/v/IF2wLZBUEi4
: vhttps://www.youtube.com/v/TWiaRhQDZFE



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发信人: yangyi ( 哥本哈根达斯), 信区: MartialArts
标  题: Re: 击剑VS武士刀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May  5 16:15:09 2017, 美东)

又不是指着这个吃饭,就不要太苛求别人了。
甭管西洋剑还是武士刀,碰上一群长枪兵都是白给,宫本武藏也是白给。

【 在 antiwheel (¤!逆火轮¤!) 的大作中提到: 】
: 拿长刀的要敢于上大步连续两三下攻击。
: 使剑的要前突找空。
: 原地斗刀头,什么都练不到,没意思。



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