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抛砖引玉-2014病理面经 (rhcrc11,molsoncheng, etc)
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发信人: rhcrc11 (Rebel), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 25 22:35:47 2014, 美东)

Background: 去年因为各种原因,麦地有点萧条,作为申请人不见好贴心里不免焦虑。
就在此环境中,几位既往study partner组了个pathology iv group。宗旨:此群不练
习iv,只用于定期交流各pg面试情况。

Material and Method: skype group, 不定期组会。

Result: 小组共15名成员,8名match path,4名match IM,1人情况不明。

Conclusion: 虽然当年麦地求助无门,却发现4~7年前各位前辈热心的面经分享,受益
无穷,给面试增添不少信心。遂鼓动小组全体成员,独乐乐不如众乐乐,为2015申请
path童鞋鼓鼓气。

P.S: 个人能力有限,此贴分享仅供参考,不负责信息正确度。
我们也仅将所知晓信息共享,拒绝私下联系。




发信人: molsoncheng (molsoncheng), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 25 22:46:51 2014, 美东)

Really well said. A couple of my thoughts regarding pathology application:

Before start application,---what's your "selling point" ?
For instance, do you have high USMLE scores? Do you graduate from "big name
schools or research groups" ? are you doing some fashion pathology related
research? Do you have publications with high quality o quantity? Are you
studying some unique diseases or using special pathology related methods /
protocols? Do you have a lot of clinical experience ? Are you really "good
looking"? Or" bad looking "? Find your"uniqueness", expand it with specific
examples or numbers. This can be used in your PS and more importantly you
need this to impress your interviewer and stand out among all interviewees
during all the whole interviews.

Next, why pathology ? Everybody says that he really loves pathology, why
should believe your story ? Of course, this is a tricky question, which
however you will be asked for sure. Again, It 's related to your "own
experience" and it definitely does not have a standard answer. However, at
least you need to know something about pathology before you " really love
path ", right? A short term OB may be good enough, a lengthy clinical path
in China is great; A translational research or cooperation with pathologist
at least can tell you something about pathology; Or maybe you or your friend
used to benefit from some pathologist's outstanding work...... Before you
make your answer, chat with 5 different people and ask how they feel your
passion.

Then, why this specific program? We all know we have to apply more than 50
PGs to secure a position and we DO have specific reasons to apply for most
programs. Because, there must be something in common between you and PG, so
let's find it. Do you or your recommenders happen to know someone in this PG
? Do you have interest in the fellowship in this PG ? Have you used to be in
this city? Do you like the sports/ weather here ? You know they are doing
something great, actually you are planning to learn this new stuff? ....
Before you make your answer, ask 5 different persons about this program,
they may offer you something more interesting.

Be prepared, be strong, wish the best. Just do not give up.
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发信人: rhcrc11 (Rebel), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 26 01:46:33 2014, 美东)

1st path iv: [email protected] Downstate, Brooklyn, NY
[email protected] Downstate不是第一个path iv,之所以放第一个面,是因为听说可能会给先卖。
虽然已有几个IM iv经验,听了前辈教导,感觉path interviewer会非常熟悉偶们的材
料,偶尔还会聊research。作为第一个path,当然不敢轻举妄动。甚至都准备了one
page research summary.就差没有project presentation~
住宿&交通:
Recommend a home hotel in Brooklyn Chinatown: it was clean, around $40/day,
you just have to share the bathroom with other guests. Address: 675 60 St,
brooklyn, Tel: 6462800085. (嘉兴旅馆).

交通建议适用public transportation:
http://tripplanner.mta.info/MyTrip/ui_web/customplanner/trippla

Or take taxi: 新金马电招车(仅限Flushing出车);该家庭旅馆提供电招车服务。

Pg info:
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_2289_107003.html

此pg是老刀推荐CMG friendly pg,确实进网页看到不少CMG resident,但最近两年CMG
比例下降,不明缘由。只是与我同天面试candidates, YOG<10yr,可能原因之一。和我
一起面的五位童鞋里,一位不鸣则已,一鸣惊人的韩国MM,YOG 9, double 240+, 韩国
完成path residency training, 现在FL作postdoc,几乎拿遍了FL所有path pg iv,
当时已拿到9个path iv,大牛级别;一位叙利亚小男生,YOG 2, 长得瘦高,披着长发
,一脸艺术家气息,后来午餐时请住院医参加他在Central Park的concert, 一开始高
谈大论对molecular pathology感兴趣,可当已经卖到molecular fellow的chief
resident告诉他以前在NIH做分子研究的经历时,他连NIH是啥都不知道。。。我当时汗
颜,千万别在面试时不懂装懂,以为自己时尚学术噶~~一位加勒比来的印巴裔男生,
fresh grad; 一位智利熟女,YOG 6,LG在NYC住院医快毕业,到该pg面试的唯一原因就
是location,她很容易亲近,跟偶混得不错,面试结束还依依惜别~

该pg不提供breakfast,请注意!

过程和前辈帖子相似。一开始所有住院医齐坐,morning report,结束后时间有余,
chief让偶们自由提问,因此多了解了些pg info. 接着面试开始。

PC是一位senior EdD,4~5年前来到该pg,基本承担PD重任。

第一位是位Hematopath attending, 看上去平易近人。刚见面不等我提问,她就迫不及
待抛出pg特点。面试过程中她因为tumor board consult接了个电话,这时间也算在偶
的iv里。聊的内容依稀记得她做血液病理,就把我血液科轮转的情况分享下;她正和
microbiology dept合作搞某种parasite研究,我就把老板有趣的microfilariae-
induced blindness研究分享下,她饶有兴趣地附和;最后我居然现买现卖地把面试前
一晚刚记的case presentation搬出来,寓意path对pt care重要性,她也附和。总之,
第一个path interviewer让我对病理面试的恐惧感大减,与IM比起来,更有聊天的感觉。

第二位是位CMG attending,刚进门用中文聊了下偶的名字~因为从未用中文练习过iv
,至少不敢临场发挥,还是扳回到English iv. 他是第一位也是唯一一位指出我LOR纰
漏的面试官(我从未看过LOR),也是第一位回复偶Thank you note的面试官,给偶很
大的鼓励。面试内容主要根据他的专长,我的专长,聊了些AP/NP pg,还有些大家都认
识的neuropathalogist. 我呢,乘机学习了neuropath,不少收获。对了,他们chair就
是neuropath,虽然没面,但抓住她出来见下一位candidate间歇卖了点我的科研和五年
计划,她欣然与偶握手道别。

然后午饭时间,resident开开心心地结伴参与,最后不得不在拥挤的食堂拼起两张大桌
子,可见they have happy residents that are willing to share.

第三位是SP元老,因刚从VA转来,pg员工都对她不熟悉。运气好在午饭时边上的PGY-2
是位强悍的菲律宾住院医,在国内已完成path residency。因为同一地方来,这位住院
医给了我一些面试官信息。其实她是位和蔼可亲的“邻家外婆”级别的SP元老,临床经
验极其丰富。因为我现在最熟悉也最想做的就是surgical oncology,就拉着她了解pg
SP各种情况,她也饶有兴趣地耐心解答。

我的三个面试都是PC敲门后结束出来的。

最后PC代替PD向我们五人介绍pg各种信息,Brooklyn life& housing,还特别强调住院
医优厚待遇,当成吸引偶们的一个方面。PC人很好,结束后特地应那位叙利亚男生要求
带我们看了[email protected] Downstate学校宿舍,还将我们每个人送到车站。

有一点我过很久以后发现:虽然PD有较长时间不在pg,都由PC主持面试,但residency
pg还有一位年轻attending(Cytopath)参与,而且当天参加面试。他人应该很nice,所
有candidate都是与他聊到PC忍无可忍两次三番敲门才终于出来的。弄得偶在外面羡慕
不已。他最终也跟我热情握手打招呼。

今年是pg小年,仅招三人,从400 applicant挑了50人面试。在1月底走了先卖。

Pg优点是地理位置好,年轻人抢着去。CP很强。Fellowship都去NYC,UPenn等名校,工作据说好找。缺点个人感觉住院医工作条件欠缺,AP房间比较小,刚配备人手一台电脑。


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※ 修改:·rhcrc11 於 Mar 27 09:17:19 2014 修改本文·[FROM: 76.]


发信人: iamreallybad (我是Jeff), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 26 10:25:06 2014, 美东)

我的1st Pathology IV: BHS

今年很多的CMG都拿到这里的面试,简单说一下:

1. PG概况:
1).位于birmingham,AL,规模相对较小,每年招2-3个,两个教学医院,以培养
community pathologists为目标;
2).IMG所占比例不小,因为前几届都招了CMG,而且表现出色,故对CMG比较
friendly;
3).PG里的resident有一些特殊福利如就餐等;
4).提供免费住宿,所提供的hotel不错;

2. Interview及注意事项:
1).在这里interveiw的时候和resident呆在一起的时间更多,如果能掌握一些
resident的背景,会让交谈更顺利;而且,在这个PG制定rank list的时候,residents
的意见也很重要,所以要在和residents互动上下一些功夫。
2). 一般有4个attending,包括PD和/或副PD,参加面试,由于他们很忙,所以一般
面试时间较短,只有10-15分钟。
3). 面试会在两个医院里进行,中间需要坐resident车去另一个医院,要走一些路。
4). 面试者都很nice,因为他们的目标是培养community pathologists,所以千万
别提research,要强调你就是要solid pathology training。

目前只能想到这么多,希望这些信息对后面的同学有帮助。


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※ 修改:·iamreallybad 於 Mar 26 12:40:08 2014 修改本文·[FROM: 168.]


发信人: cynthiadodo (云淡风轻), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 26 12:41:07 2014, 美东)

mm 写得好详细阿,赞一个 :-)
我也被这家面了,补充几点吧。参加了他们早晨的case report presentation, the
chair gave many good suggestions on the presentation skills
for residents. The chief resident is a CMG who's pretty and nice:-) PD said
writing ability is very important. They also have AP/NP training track in
addition to traditional AP/CP.

【 在 rhcrc11 (Rebel) 的大作中提到: 】
: 1st path iv: [email protected] Downstate, Brooklyn, NY


发信人: rhcrc11 (Rebel), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 26 14:54:28 2014, 美东)

因为面了两家非大众情人pg,主要任务将这两家向大家介绍。决定走Jeff精简路线。我
们的Molsoncheng是对path非常有经验有头脑的parnter,大家好好学学。

UAMS(LR, Arkansas):
This is a new IMG-friendly pg that I strongly recommend to everyone. As they
changed a new PD, who came from Lebanon, 3yrs ago, and since then, they are
recruiting increasing amount of IMG residents (before that only AMG
graduated from Central US med school were occupying all the positions). They
would even recruit one IMG resident who graduate >10yrs annually, although
they definitely prefer young graduates. So whatever conditions you are,
consider this pg.

I love this pg. They are very friendly and generous. The friendliest IM pg
to me was Rochester General. Both of the pg offer pre-iv dinner, free hotel,
and provided transportation throughout the iv day. UAMS even ask their
residents to drive the candidates to the dinner& airport, to offer the
candidates more time to chat with residents. You can imagine how nice and
friendly they were. One extra thing, the free hotel is the best hotel I have
ever lived~~a huge suite, which distracted me a lot from iv preparation~~

On the iv day, they asked 10 candidates with lower frequency to host iv,
which is quite efficient. We initially gathered in the department library,
and we were given the opportunity to talk with the faculty and residents
freely. Since I was quite familiar with my interviewer’s info, I happen to
talk with one new faculty, who graduated from India and did residency in
this pg, and published 7 papers during his PGY-3&4. I asked him how could he
be so productive and energetic, and he happily talked with me, which
continued till our interview.

After morning report, we enjoyed a long hospital trip. Their department
environment is the best one I have ever known, quite neat and tidy, fully-
equipped, huge space. They held the iv in the same way as CS exam (actually
in the med school CS exam rooms~~), the difference was that we candidates
stayed in the same room while interviewers took turns to interview us. Very
effective.

I interviewed with 6 interviewers.

1st interviewer was an CMG physician from VA hospital. I heard from my
study partner that he was not involved in any iv this yr, so it is one way
to show the pg’s friendliness. He was very nice to introduce their pg to me
; also shared with me how to make J1 waiver. He even asked me some pathology
questions, which was not that horrible to me. Finally, he strongly
recommended me to rank their pg high. He sent me a long reply to my Thank
You Note, which gave me lots of encouragement. Although I did not get any
chance to talk with him any more, I intrinsically thank him for his support
and encouragement.

2nd interviewer was a professor& Director of Molecular path. He became very
interested when I asked him questions about molecular path (MM study), how
to control a clinical lab. From him, I learned how to do lab management,
which becomes a heated point in CP RISE exams. Our conversation ended
quickly through my questions and his sharing.

3rd interviewer was a nice lady. She is a new faculty who graduated from
hematopath in the pg. She introduced hematopath training to me. She also
told me a tip: all the cards sent to interviewers would be collected and put
in my profile~~so nice to have her as an interviewer

We had lunch in a median-sized meeting room. I talked with some candidates,
and some senior residents. The most fortunate thing was that a new faculty
who did his residency& [email protected] CCF, shared with me his [email protected] CCF,
and how did he get his current job. He got some funding, and was doing
exactly the same lab work that I have been doing in the past few years.
Although he was not my interviewer, I became very excited about the
potential opportunity here.

4th interviewer: resuming the conversation with the Indian faculty. He told
me to be open-minded during pathology training& making plans; also looking
for a career that is new& could be the direction for pathology. As to renal
pathology, he taught me to get clinical experience, so I can have an idea of
how to make step-by-step Dx. I was highly inspired by this interviewer
throughout the day. I wonder if everyone can be so energetic and creative as
he does, how can it be so difficulty for pathology graduates to find a job?
Well, it’s only my guessing~~

5th interviewer was the chief resident, who had been in Arkansas, or
probably this pg for >10yr. She gave my detailed introduction of the pg to
me, and answered every question efficiently. I like her~~

6th interview was PD. He would make the most important decision. I heard he
is very strict with spoken English, which distracted me from iv preparation
beforehand. He actually was a nice person. He told me, every candidate in
his pg reached the requirement of being smart and working hard. So what he
really cared during iv was whether the candidate has a good personality (
good communication skills& good English, in my opinion). He gave me the info
about the pg from a generous perspective: such as the didactic, fellowship,
et al. Not a lot of chemistry, but I don’t think my English failed me.

Pg advantage:
1. Very supportive hospital environment; friendly & generous program;
Excellent faculty group, very energetic and passionate, with experience both
in clinic & research, open-minded
2. Hospital is famous for MM (Multiple myeloma clinic), so their
hemotopath is very strong; Balanced AP/CP training. Resident graduate go to
diverse fellowship specialties.
3. Lots of fellowship positions (currently 5 specialties, and gonna open
3 more)
4. Little Rock is a nice place, with warm winter & humid summer, weather
is similar to Shanghai/Zhejiang; good church; Good Chinese restaurant;
people are warm-hearted
5. Median-large pg, with total 20 slots. 5 positions annually.
6. Excellent didactic: they host daily seminars, which require everyone
to attend. The topics are divided according to systems monthly.


Pg shortcoming:
1. No CMG resident before. Central US hospitals are famous for their
conservative. Even offered iv, the likelihood to get matched is uncertain
at the moment.
2. South people are very lay-back; but physicians are effective
3. Small city& state, not sure about future development~~~
4. They do not offer H1B this year
5. Their website was outdated~~
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※ 修改:·rhcrc11 於 Mar 26 15:00:00 2014 修改本文·[FROM: 76.]


发信人: rhcrc11 (Rebel), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 抛砖引玉-2014病理面经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 26 15:43:19 2014, 美东)

UH (Honolulu, HI):

I deliberately arranged UH iv as my last one, and it did not fail me. I know
it could be the only place to heal all the stress generated from interview
trips, and the suffering from a long-term pressure. Beach and sunshine have
always kept their charming attraction to me. As one interviewer mentioned:
How
do u deal with stress can determine whether you will choose here or not. If
you would like to drive wildly throughout 5 states, or go shopping for a
whole day, then it is not the right place for you; but if walking around the
seashore in a sunny afternoon, then it is the perfect choice. I had no
doubt to answer this question.

They do not provide hotel, cause they know interviewers would prefer to stay
there longer than the iv day. As Lenny recommended, I asked program to
refer me to University of Hawaii student Dorms, very cheap $28/day single
room, $35/day double room. Also bus there is very convenient. I only stayed
there for 4d, and on my last day, I rent a car, drove around the island, and
enjoyed different types of beaches.

There seemed to be no CMG either as committee member or resident. But they
have high ratio of Asian staffs, mostly grew up in HI, attended med school
in UH, and practiced in HI. I have one thought: because it is such nice
weather here throughout the year, those who have lived &worked here for >
4yrs cannot get used to the bad weather outside the island; so the only
choice for them was to stay here all their life. One thing seems to be
certain, they offer iv to young graduate (<5yr?)

Their pg was quite friendly. I was the only one to be interviewed that day.
A PGY-4 resident who matched to Memorial Sloan-Kettering picked me up from
the dormitory with his shining convertible, and took me around 3 different
hospitals to have the iv. It was the only iv that provided the opportunity
to see all the rotating hospitals. The resident kept on offering the info
about their pg, and the word he used the most to describe their faculty was
“lay-back”. It was my first time to realize this word could enjoy positive
meanings. I had iv with 5 interviewers. PD was not quite talkative, but
from the resident, I know he is very nice person, and very helpful to
residents. The new Chair held the iv with me on the top of the hospital,
under the sunshine; He knew my current pg very well, so our iv was like a
conversation sharing the past and future; He gave me some recommendation to
my research project; He went to northeast China many times to attend
orthopedic international annual meetings, so he could say some Chinese words
. Finally, he taught me how to choose a residency pg: to see whether their
resident are happy. I learned a lot from this distinguished yet kind
pathologist. I also
talked with CP director, Medical Education director, and Ob/Gyn path
director. Only the Ob/Gyn pathologist gave me a 4-question list as a start
of our iv, which were quite difficult. But no worry, he just wanted to
initiate the conversation, and learn about our professionalism& personality;
he won’t give you a difficult time.

Residents in the pg are quite happy and friendly. Housing& gas there is a
bit expensive, but living expense is not as high as I expected. They have 2
big mall, a good Chinatown, and all kinds of Asian food.

Advantage:
1. Friendly pg
2. Great environment to live in Hawaii!!! Love the seashore and the
weather so much!!!
3. Good clinical training. On-call every other day, 2 presentations /3mo.
4. Opportunity to participate in teaching
5. Need to do at least one translation research project during training
6. New Chair is so friendly! He just came to Hawaii last year, who had
been the chair in Mt. Sinai for 10+yrs.

Shortcoming:
1. Typical community affiliated to University; No research opportunity
2. No fellowship offered at the moment
3. Isolated island, with cockroaches everywhere

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※ 修改:·rhcrc11 於 Mar 26 17:08:49 2014 修改本文·[FROM: 76.]

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