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如何对待已有Pre-match但仍有心中理想单位尚未面试而又不希望失去已有的机会?(讨论)
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发表时间:2007-12-21
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关于如何对待已有PRE-MATCH但仍有几个心中理想单位尚未面试而又不希望失去已有
的机会?(讨论)


发信人: braveHeart07 (braveHeart), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 12:41:24 2007)

首先感谢这个bbs以及各位前辈的无私奉献!

一共有15个IV,昨天接到心目中第6,7位program的pre-match offer. 但是现在
接受实在不甘心,因为最喜欢的两个program 对我的表现挺满意的,虽然没有给
pre-match offer,但话里话外透着亲切,也邀请了第二次访问。而且最近还会去见
心中3到5名的program。

不过话说回来,尽管他们现在表示很好,但他们对candidate的interview没有结束,
难保他们不会看见其他喜欢的candidate。现在手上没有他们的pre-match offer,人
家到时候不把我rank high, 我也没有任何办法。

所以说到底,还是很希望目前给pre-match offer的program能够给我保底。怎么跟
他们communicate一下,让他们不要因为我据了他们的pre-match offer就不再rank
me high?一般的program是怎么处理这种情况的?

本人一般宽款信息:毕业11年,考试成绩8,90分。美国博士+博后,10+文章。
唯一的优势可能是在美国做过extern。外加英文还不错吧,善于表达。有绿卡。


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发信人: fogsail (pathguy), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 14:20:20 2007)

if u dont accept prematch, it only means one thing: u dont think those
programs as top choices, and if u were PDs, would you still rank such a
person high? ... it is a tough choice and looks like there is no safe way
to do it ... Good luck!
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发信人: yeye (沐浴更衣迎我佛), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 14:24:11 2007), 转信

When PG offers prematch, they also think their program might not be your
first choice. But they use prematch as a way to attract more competitive
candidates.


发信人: fogsail (pathguy), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 14:34:54 2007)

it also depends on how good u r ... 11 yrs after graduation + 80s/90s is
not very strong, but maybe you have other attractive qualities ... even if
the program is not that super, they usually wont expect someone rejects a
prematch will end up there .... just my guess ....
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发信人: zbbh (zbbh), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 14:58:06 2007)

我的建议是赶紧跟你觉得比这个好的program联系,告诉他们你有pre-match,看能
不能给你pre-match。另外,在pre-match的deadline之前,能去尽量多的iv,面试中说
明情况,看看能不能给你on site pre-match。


发信人: braveHeart07 (braveHeart), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 15:35:40 2007)

非常谢谢大家!

问题就是据我所知,我最想去的地方从来也没有prematch的,所以为我开口子的可
能性也是微乎其微。这个prematch offer只有一周有效期,所以我肯定也看不完剩下的

program. 而且因为我的top 2 choices don't offer pre-match, 我可能只能等到
明年3月match了。的确是有点赌,但根据他们的反馈,又觉得有7,8成把握。

现在就是想说服给prematch的地方,我喜欢你们,但是我想看完剩下的program再做
决定。
--


发信人: yf (fanfan), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 16:09:00 2007)

据了就忘了吧。就当没有这回事。他们不会再rank你了。



发信人: Dingdang07 (叮当), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 17:06:18 2007)

Agree with fanfan. If you deny the prematch, they won't rank you. Match
is a risky game. Some programs are very good at keeping their applicants.
Some even call you before you submit the LOR, which is illegal, but eventually
they don't rank you high enough.

Of course sometimes you can get into a very good program or your dream program. Anyway GL to you.

发信人: stomach (stomach), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 21:09:19 2007)

个人觉得这主要是看现在给你pre-match的地方的风格,如果他们通常是绝大多数位
子都由pre-match搞定,估计就够呛,以为他们会觉得你占了个位子却不一定来这里,
还不如就给其他人;如果pre-match其实只是少部分,那你还有希望争取一下。不过个
人觉得,如果这里不是你的TOP5就再想想吧,尤其是有其它地方非常正面的恢复的话。
另,如果你给你最想去的地方说你为了他们锯掉了pre-match,是不是更好的表示了你
对他们的兴趣?应该是加分点吧?


发信人: OhMyGod (Man in the Mirror), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 13 22:39:11 2007)

但是我觉得你还是应该告诉你最喜欢的progrm你的prematch offer,并不是一定让
他们破例给你prematch(也不是绝对不可能吧,呵呵),主要第一是继续表衷心,第二是
他们如果对你很感兴趣应该会告诉你他们对你的底线的,congratulations, anyway。



发信人: dokknife (力刀), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 14 01:19:44 2007)

100% gambling!

I used to have same situation when I IV UC for path, but when NSUH gave
me pre-match, I immediately accepted. 5yrs later, I back UC for fellowship.
don't take big risk and don't think residency too serious! get a top
fellowship after residency is more important than get a top residency.

u cann't eat a cake and have one same time.

but if u want gambling, go for it......

this is my view.


dok

发信人: renaissance (ole), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 15 00:04:01 2007)

I think you should take the pre-match offer. Totally agree with Docknife.
With your research background, you don't need a very good residency program
for future fellowship. All you need is medical training
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发信人: braveHeart07 (braveHeart), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 20 23:49:19 2007)

update 一下吧 --跟这个给我pre-match offer的program要了几天extension, 抓
住这个时机把排位3-5号的program基本转了一遍,最后拿了心中排名第3的program
的pre-match offer。所以我的interview season也提前结束。说排第3,实际上一定
程度上跟排名第二的各有千秋,所以我还是很高兴的。

谢谢大家的鼓励和经验分享,同时想跟还再战斗的各位说一句,要相信自己。同时
如果你想要pre-match的话,一定要说。他们可能会放诸如我们会 rank you high之
类的狗屁。但只要他们没有明确说从来不给pre-match,你就应该把自己的优势再强
调一遍,再要pre-match。看你这么 dedicate, PD还不迟早被你搞掂?

Good luck everyone! Hang in there, you'll get it sooner or later!
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发信人: knockingdown (knock), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 20 23:56:00 2007)

Congrats!

Could you talk a little bit how did you manage to get the extention from
the first offer. About the second program, did they claim they don't offer
prematch at all but you just keep asking, and eventually you get it?
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发信人: braveHeart07 (braveHeart), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 如何能暂时不接受pre-match但又让program rank high?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 21 00:13:00 2007)

For the first question, I just asked for a few days extension, not a long
time. Guess they are really interested in me, so they agreed that.

For the second question, the program I end up with does offer pre-match
offer. But I did ask for that, since I need to decide if I should take the
first pre-match offer, and they answered me right before the deadline. So
I took it right away. I also asked my top 2 choice programs about pre-match,
but unfortunately, neither of them ever offered that. If I take the risk
of match, I think I get at least 60-80% chance to get in one of them, but I

simply don't want to take that risk anymore.

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