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YHZ: my English learning tools (comments/discussions)
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寄信人: YHZ (fielding)
标 题: my English learning tools
发信站: 未名空间 (Fri Nov 19 00:35:54 2010)
来 源: 99.189.


Dear Doc

I hope my experience below is useful to our club. If possible, would you put
it on the top so that others can see it and read it?

Thank you.

My English learning tools—11-18-2010

I never think my English is good but indeed I got some lessens and so-called
experience of learning English. I want to share with us and want to make a
little contribution to this precious forum because I have benefitted a lot
from many sincere and kind persons here, esp. Doc. Here I will share some
information from my personal experience. For me, I think this experience is
full of regret, hesitation and discouragement, hard-work and thinking,
pleasure and confidence finally… and lot of psychological struggle. I
believe this will be my first part in this forum. I am an old CMG(>15 yr
post graduation) and I have never ever thought I was regarded as so old FMG
till in the interview. Sigh, I can’t change it, but accept it happily
because psychologically I have been thinking I am YOUNG and can do
everything! For example, learning English. I hope the following tools I am
using will be useful to anyone, who wish to speak English with American
Accent.

First please visit this website: This is the first video program used to
teach pronunciation and it works very well from my own experience.

http://www.pronunciationworkshop.com/

There are many testimonies from Chinese physician, CEO…..in this website.
Here I just say:” it is a perfect program for me as a CMG!” because I have
been using the speech muscle to speak English, which was used to speak
Chinese (at least partly). Only through practicing the English-speaking
muscle around your mouth can you speak English with American accent.
Actually this was described by the speech language pathologist Paul. Nobody,
nobody, nobody told me that after learning English over 30 years! Nobody
told me my pronunciation of the word—usual—is wrong till Paul told me.
Also downtown—all of CMG, I guess, pronounced it wrongly!!! (based on
American Accent—because we are living in USA, not England) Can you believe
it? Having failed my step 2CS first time, I found this video and purchased
it and kept practicing over three months, now I think I can speak English
very confidently because I know I speak it correctly and do not worry about
my listener’s misunderstanding me. It is a revolutionary change in my oral
English.
However, this software is only permitted used in one computer.

Second tool I am using is the dictionary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/

Any words including medical terms can be found in this dictionary with
pronunciation.
If you want to know how to read some drugs’ names, you also can use this
web dictionary.

Thirdly, if you only want to how to say a drug name, go to this websites,

http://www.howjsay.com/

it can tell you England or American pronunciation--- such angina( the
stress is either on ‘angina(USA) or an’gina (England), ‘vaginal(USA), va
’ginal(England). Many antibiotics such ceftriaxine, cefotaxime …… This is
very useful for observer ship or externship--- now we need to know how to
say them correctly instead of only knowing them in the textbooks! This
words are worth using this dictionary---dil’tiazem, cefepine,…. Li’
sinopril, insulin(where is the stress? For me, I thought it was in’sulin,
but it is pronounced ‘insulin).

Fourthly, go to this websites, there are some medical terms from MERCK read
by the native speakers.(American accent).

http://www.merckmanuals.com/home/resources/pronunciations/index/a.html?WT.z_resource=undefined


Fifthly, when you make a speech or do a presentation, you are not 100% sure
if your pronunciation of every word is right, use this software.

http://www.naturalreaders.com/order_information.htm

Also it was read by the machine; at least the pronunciation is always
correct. The advantage of this software is that you can installed in your
computer, it can read PDF, Word and Internet texts. I think it is very
useful for examinees to take Stp2 CS. Unfortunately I just noticed this
software 2 days before my CS test. But finally I purchased it and installed
in my computer. It is very useful for us to listen to how every word is
pronounced, esp. when we are not sure of it.

Sixthly, as guided by Paul (read #1), I am reading Bill Clinton’s book—My
Life) everyday, 10 minutes a day. In the library there are audio CDs
available or you can buy through the internet, which is very cheap. I need
to keep practicing my reading following one native speaker often. Over time,
sure, your accent will become American accent.

If the above information will be useful to someone, I will feel more than
happy.


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发信人: largebird (largebird), 信区: Pre_Resident_Club
标 题: Re: YHZ: my English learning tools
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 19 12:04:43 2010, 美东)

Very good information. However, I still believe accent is not the big
problem. Indian has accent too, almost every word has their special accent,
but American people can understand it without problem, I think just like in
north China, every province has their own accent, but people can understand
each other, sometime enjoy the accent.

To my understanding, grammar is the key of spoken English, we usually use
the grammar in a wrong way so that people can not understand or feel weird.

I consulted some experts, they indicated to make people understood is the
first step, so make a full length sentence with time, place, people,
incidence etc completely, English requires all these to make a intact
sentence. Secondly, correct the accent, unfortunately, experts also indicate
since I used the vocal muscle for more than 40 years, it is impossible to
change.
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发信人: YHZ (fielding), 信区: Pre_Resident_Club
标 题: Re: YHZ: my English learning tools
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 19 13:33:18 2010, 美东)


Hi, Largerbird, thank you for your nice words!
I agree with you—the accent is only initial part of communication, it is
NOT all!
We need full sentences to communicate with others after all, right? But
accent is like a person's handwriting in Chinese, when you open your mouth,
your listener has already known you. Of course, this program is very useful
for the people who are interested in improving their accent so that the
listener can understand easily.
However, there is one thing I may not agree with the experts in your
message(---unfortunately, experts also indicate since I used the vocal
muscle for more than 40 years, it is impossible to change.) Actually, you
will make it finally, I am sure. if you follow the guidance from the video( http://www.pronunciationworkshop.com/)
for 3 months , maybe 1 month, you will feel significant change. I FELT that!
Your speaking muscle will gradually been modified for American Accent like
use "th”in think", I know it was pronounced with your tongue sticking out
of your teeth, but I have never realized I just pronounced "S "--sink.
Initially I tried to stick out my tongue and it is not easy, but overtime,
now even if you ask me not to stick out my tongue, that will be very hard.
In order to keep using your speech muscle in that way, you need keep using
it. That’s why you need to follow a native speaker to read a text in a book
. 10-15 minutes a day will make a big difference. I am still practicing by
reading a book. Trust me, if you follow that and when you make it in the
end, do remember to tell me about it, ok? Good luck!

【 在 largebird (largebird) 的大作中提到: 】
: Very good information. However, I still believe accent is not the big
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发信人: timingchain (timingchain), 信区: Pre_Resident_Club
标 题: Re: YHZ: my English learning tools
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 19 13:40:02 2010, 美东)

Thank you very much for sharing such a wonderful experience! Very helpful!
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发信人: daisyy (Daisy), 信区: Pre_Resident_Club
标 题: Re: YHZ: my English learning tools
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 19 14:03:18 2010, 美东)

Pronunciation correction is good for ESLs. I was required to attend a
pronunciation class in my workplace. The result is great- my spoken
English has improved dramatically after the class, although there're
still lots of rooms for improvement.

Correct your spoken English from each single letter(a-Z), then words,
sentences, you'll be amazed.

Grammar need long term work. You can see improvement relatively quicker
through pronunciation correction. Why not give it a try?

Of course, the key to improvement is to practice, practice, and
practice.




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