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lostknife: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(Discussion)
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发信人: lostknife (麦地俯卧撑), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 12 14:21:37 2010, 美东)

老不是我们的错,老而无为就是我们的不对了。为家庭, 为老婆孩子,为自己的梦想
奋斗过了, 此生足以。人的起点和终点相同, 过程不同。40岁的人敢于挑战自己,
这本身就很了不起。 成功了最好,没成,该干啥干啥去。
干什么都要付出, 都有风险的。中穆朗玛峰雪山上的堆堆白骨,并没有吓退勇士们登
顶的决心。考版这点事,哪有那么大的风险。顶多把写grant,发paper,找faculty的时
间花到复习上了。在这过程中所收获的知识和应付压力的心得和能力,将来都是一笔财
富。
别的不知道,我就知道我的孩子的未来会因为我的努力而更加美好。

Cao,说大话和空话开导别人挺容易的,可轮到自己也挺难的。哥也有点儿挺不住了。
咱们一起喝点小酒,互相鼓励, 大声高唱《朋友》吧。。。。。。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqO8E9VPS38

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发信人: meigui0714 (rose), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 12 15:00:50 2010, 美东)

Thank you for the link. It is a good song.

If you are 40 yrs, I am your sister. I am here, friend.

We never give up, don't we?

Dream big and keep eyes on high!!!!

Fire up! Ready to go! Yes, We can!
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发信人: largebird (largebird), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 12 15:21:22 2010, 美东)

人可以被打倒,人不能被打败。尽到自己的努力,勇敢面对困难,40多了,沟沟坎坎见
过多了,说实在的能到这步了,没有人会失败,只要坚持到底,胜利永远属于我们。
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发信人: lostknife (麦地俯卧撑), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 12 15:25:00 2010, 美东)

楼上的妹子,兄弟,谢谢你们捧场。有你们与我一路同行, 哥这心里踏实多了。
啥也别说了,低头汗流浃背地工作吧。不管将来能否成功, 咱尽力了,就行了。
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发信人: cheapmd (lefthanded), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 12 21:20:06 2010, 美东)

40岁,只要健康就是年轻,又不是国内,过了40不提拔。。。年龄根本不是问题,经验
有时候还会避免失误。
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发信人: laojifuli (laojifuli), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 12 23:32:48 2010, 美东)

赞哥儿们的革命英雄主义和革命乐观主义精神。

俺咋就这么颓废呢?

四十年来家国,三千里地山河。
一旦决定考版,沈腰潘鬓消磨。
最是仓皇火柴日,金榜题名没有我。
垂泪对老婆。。。。


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发信人: Sand08 (逆生长秘诀), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 22:51:40 2010, 美东)

Well said!

我也是奔四俩娃的大娘, 你写的每一种心态感触,都好像在读自己。 其实当初下决心
考版这个过程费时最长, 从生老二05年末开始一直犹豫到08年初。 之后破釜沉舟quit
了, 一路考试match过来, 反倒时间过得很快。 很庆幸自己去年毅然决然接受了
prematch, 虽然是IV中排名末尾的, 但是就像大奔提到的, getting into a
residency program first. We have no right to choose, to be frank. We can't
afford the risk to choose. 脚踏实地地做好准备, interview时一定记得保持并展
示自己成熟, 乐观, 自信的心态, 没有做不到, 只有不想做。



发信人: jfyn (老当益壮), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 00:27:59 2010, 美东)

我已经过40了。说实话,还真没觉得自己老了。可能就是说的那种不服老的心态吧。但
已被我女儿归入老人行列了。我们是老,可我们也没白活着,我们有更多的经验和经历
。但愿有识货的。
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发信人: benpu (麦地大奔-Think or Sink), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 00:53:06 2010, 美东)

Hi, I graduate in 95. I matched. We have only one chance to live, and that's
always right to pursue your dream.

my suggestion for those who >40

1. think twice before you start ---- it's a rough long ride, and your family
is with you driving to uncertainty

2. make a plan before you start ---- a clear, step by step plan is a must.
time well spent is much more important than money well spent.

3. finish the test as quickly as you can (of course as high score as you can
as well) ---- match becomes harder and harder, especially for old CMG.

4. choose wisely about the specialty ---- pick up those specialties friendly
to old CMGs (>10). and yes, the number of such program is shrinking fast

5. CONNECTION, CONNECTION, CONNECTION ---- this is the most important thing
to my knowledge. especially for this age group. if you have none by now,
establish one.

6. Grab the chance once it comes without a second thought ---- getting into
a residency program first. you have no right to choose, to be frank.

good luck. my best wishes.



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发信人: daisyy (Daisy), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 01:00:12 2010, 美东)

时光容易把人抛。没想到一转眼也快40了,没觉得自己老,看着也不老,心态还很年轻
,游戏也还玩,小说也还看,哈哈。不过现在看书做题了,其他的暂时停了。
一直做的都是临床研究的东西,也算是顺着自己兴趣一直做过来的。以前没考,主要是
还有其他东西要学,另外也有怕苦的念头,再加上身份问题,家庭,孩子问题,这样一
拖,那么多年就过去了。也没觉得后悔,该经历的经历过了,所以现在更加珍惜学习的
机会。美国是一个很能锻炼人的地方,只要努力过了,都会有收获的。
大家一起努力吧,共勉。


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发信人: Sahara4 (ninimomo), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 01:09:27 2010, 美东)

Well said, Daisyy! Sometimes I started to have the regret feeling that I
have not taken this path much earlier like most PhD students are doing
during their gradute school, but when I looked back each step and careen
decision I made, I think the I should not reget because at each stage I did
have my unique need and thoughts at that time being, our mind and evaluation
of ourselves are constantly changing as well, therefore I cherish what I
can do now and look forward!

Cheers, my old CMG friends, especially moms with kids like me!


【 在 daisyy (Daisy) 的大作中提到: 】


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发信人: USMedEdu (US_CMGs), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 11:58:04 2010, 美东)

我也来唱和一小曲酸它一大把:

力刀

四十年来家国,
八千里地山河。
东西南北任漂零,
春夏秋冬尽折磨。
苦头比甜多


一旦决定考版,
如同吃了秤砣。
不信无缘看黄河
三起三落八年多
如今真快活!


【 在 laojifuli (laojifuli) 的大作中提到: 】


发信人: Lancet2008 (麦叶刀), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 13:09:05 2010, 美东)

我是94年毕业的,祝xdjm今年好运!

秋冬蜡染双鬓,春夏焦灼前额。
待中榜眼回首,卧薪尝胆几何?
喜盼新春花烂漫,月夜雀台醉当歌。
岁月未蹉跎!



【 在 laojifuli (laojifuli) 的大作中提到: 】



发信人: meigui0714 (rose), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 15:20:00 2010, 美东)

你们也太有才了.午休时间,俺也凑凑热闹.

俺是大姐,人称老妪.
相比姐妹,心中有亏,
未婚未育,蹉跎岁月,
稀里糊涂,选择来美,
睁眼闭眼,十年过去,
酸甜苦辣,唯我独知,
忍耐坚持,默默祈祷,
生命可贵,不想浪费,
选择考试,不是为钱,
爬山乐趣,不在登顶,
迎接挑战,挖决潜力,
人生美好,好好活着,
一个篱笆,三个木桩,
一个好汉,三个友帮,
团结互助,才会兴旺,
交朋会友,常来常往,
相互鼓励,走向成功.


【 在 USMedEdu (US_CMGs) 的大作中提到: 】


发信人: predoc (predoc), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 17:09:22 2010, 美东)

唉!考试容易,MATCh难啊。年龄是最大的杀手。不信,等你MATCH试试。俺去年试了一
把,很受打击。决定放弃了。俺的成绩也不错。人家明说,毕业时间太久了。。。我想
,跟我相似经历的人还有,只是不说而已。真的,三思而行。
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发信人: largebird (largebird), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 17:42:41 2010, 美东)

真的,三思而行 totally agree, I know at least 2 CMG got into residency
around 50, so if you old enough and definitely don't want to match, please
don't try.
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发信人: littlevioce (too little), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 18:03:49 2010, 美东)

毕业>10年的CMG路过,一起努力吧,不管结果如何,尽力了就不后悔了。不轻易放弃!
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发信人: bufushu (bufu), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 21:09:22 2010, 美东)

年龄大肯定是负面因素,可是,也有不少年纪小双99的第一年没match上的,没有人敢
100%打保票一次match,同样,没有人敢说你100%match不上,可是,如果你放弃了,那
就是100%不行了。

年纪大的,分数低的,大家努力在别的地方弥补一下,试想一想我们这些千老,我本来
就一无所有,我们能失去的只有这个破生物实验室的锁链了,坚持到底,胜利属于我们

睡意朦胧的星辰 阻挡不了我行程

多年漂泊日夜餐风露宿

为了理想我宁愿 忍受寂寞

饮尽那份孤独

抖落异地的尘土 踏上遥远的路途

满怀痴情追求我的理想

三百六十五日 年年的度过

过一日 行一程

三百六十五里路哟 越过春夏秋冬

三百六十五里路哟 岂能让它虚度

我那万丈的雄心 从来没有消失过

即使时光渐去依然执着

自从离乡背井已过了多少

三百六十五日
 
三百六十五里路哟 从故乡到异乡

三百六十五里路哟 从少年到白头

有多少三百六十五里路哟 越过春夏秋冬

三百六十五里路哟 岂能让它虚度
 
多少个三百六十五里路哟 从故乡到异乡

三百六十五里路哟 从少年到白头

三百六十五里长路 饮尽那份孤独
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发信人: lostknife (麦地俯卧撑), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 13 21:57:09 2010, 美东)

再次感谢各位参与讨论。尤其感谢咱们医坛的灵魂和良师益友:刀哥,还有大奔前辈(
学业上的,年龄可能比我们还小)。

我们老CMG就是有才,这么多诗人骚客。 我写不出那么好的诗词,就整两句打酱油诗吧。

老骥四十志千里,壮心不已仍奋蹄;
学习刀哥吃秤砣,立马横刀定山河。

牛吹大了,不好意思了。

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发信人: Dreadnaught (Dr.Naught), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 14 01:06:05 2010, 美东)

I'm even older and going to take STEP1 soon.
I think no one can prevent us for our dream.

Ding!!!
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发信人: showdown (showdown), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 14 01:36:35 2010, 美东)

老没有错

浪费时间老到现在才考,是兄弟本人的错
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发信人: wilsonwang (wilsonw), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版的大龄CMG, 你不孤单,我们是朋友(口水帖)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 14 08:18:37 2010, 美东)

大受鼓舞。。。感动ing,原来有这么多xdjm在努力着。。。真是没有泄气的理由啊。
。。奋斗过了才不会后悔。。。大家好运!
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1   [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-21 02:21:06 提到] [FROM: 98.]


Medi is back to its glory days in the absence of the obnoxious barking from the MadDog!!! Does anyone think there are some indispensable tips he actually learned from his private club? His club is such a joke.

I cant believe this kind of idiot exists in this world. Two words to describe this piece of human trash: shameless and stupid. USMedEdu, aka, MadDog, put the following thread in his blog and bold it in the front page. Yet, clearly, the answers he endorsed are the worst answers. The answer I provided got a nod from an English forum. Does he understand the concept of shame or logic? Not only he speaks/writes shitty English, he cant think straight either. And now he wants to drag everyone down with him. PITY! What kind of dumb ass slaps his own face in public? What a joke!
无极: 住院医生面试碰到的尴尬事( 力刀评注推荐及麦地网友讨论)

Doc has successfully sabotaged a good learning club. At the peak, the pre_resident_english_corner had over 95 members and hundreds of posts. Congratulations! I will jot down a few expressions and new words here and there for myself mostly. Sorry friends. I let you down. You guys are the only losers as the bystanders caught in the cross-fire between the two warring parties. Ironically, both of the two people at war came out as the only two 'winners'. Doc can claim his star power. I can focus on my study.

Clearly, this USMedEd cant think straight anymore at his age. To give his credit where credit is due, he is still good at copying/pasting of the posts written by others. Follow his rubbish advice at your peril. We can write a laundry list of his shitty advice. This is a guy who cant keep his job for long. I am still wondering why he had to side with the losing party in a political struggle at work as he put it in one of his posts. Most people would not get involved. Only confrontational and aggressive douche bags would go for it. They can be burned again and again and are still clueless as it is just bad luck and not their faults whatsoever.

It is not just me saying this. Read this:
[snowfox01 于 2010-11-02 17:25:32 提到] [FROM: 134.74.]
Dr.Newbie:Please be nice to this old man。
难道你没看见你把他生命中唯一的支柱----收集各种贴子,然后大言不惭的copy&post 到自己的网页。给打碎了。同时,他在麦地的“一手遮天” 用那二十年前的狗屁经验来误导新人,也让你给揭穿了。我能理解他的恼羞成怒。他也没几天了,就让他乐呵乐呵吧。

There is no doubt that my English is better than anyone else including Eric and that lumcsomething. I was actually touched by the applications to my club every day during this short time. While I am still trying to figuring out the best way to get people energized and the best way to help, it went kaboom. It is such a pity. Just imagine how much more I can help once I get into residency and finish it.

I am sorry it has gone this far. This dokknife has been attacking me relentlessly on anything I write for no good reason. I have to stand up for myself. He said it himself: He does not care whether I am right or wrong. So he makes it personal. Now, he got it. It is personal between him and me.

Feel free to say hello to me at your leisure. I dont have time to play with this piece of human trash and a sadist who excels in copying/pasting and who cant keep his jobs for long. Let him have his schadenfreude from how the ex-boss who canned him got divorced. Let him brag how successful he is in dismantling a learning place.

Lets watch which comes first: I get into residency or he got fired.

并爱好给人改错的蠢人的发言更充分地反映出其愚蠢和无知,她的所谓良好英语在她的愚蠢脑袋支配下成了砸她自己脚的石头。此人在麦地已经贩卖了无数的垃圾和错误得东西。我实在无法忍受这种蠢人无休无止地误导CMG.
-----Doc.
乌龟总是对眼王八,狼和狈总是为奸。
你和这个混球对上眼很正常。装糊涂装黄花大姑娘真有坐台小姐得姿态嘛。
-----Doc
你这WSN还真是咸吃萝卜蛋操心.
-----Doc
耗子乌龟王八苍蝇和垃圾.
-----Doc
狗屁不懂的蠢货,愚蠢跳粱BSO牛Xer还真是第一次出现。各位可以饱眼福了.
-----Doc
换王八壳子来口水的蠢货的蠢言蠢语愚不可及的暴露,她懂个狗P.
-----Doc
我当我的医生,真也是撑了的,给你这号250上课来了还指望你懂人话呢。俺还真不如去打兔子大雁打网球去了。你这号真是纯粹的生物WSN德性。
-----Doc
向你这号又哭穷和没地方找饭碗,还不愿去换个活法,才真让人烦的WSN德性呢!真该去CT或MRI了!
-----Doc
你丫的又该酸掉几个牙?尔等难怪人家说生物萎缩,真TMD不亏!
-----Doc
说你等装B萎缩吧,你还扭扭捏捏跟坐台的要装黄花大姑娘似的。想来邪的,俺不是
不会更不是没掐过。
-----Doc



You all think this is acceptable and a good presentation of character? What I said back is half what he has said to me. Every time I make an apology to him, I got spit-at-your-face response in return.

It is a pity to see a good club falling apart. At least I have the decency not to use my club as a venting joint. I am sorry that you are put between a rock and a hard place. I will understand if you have to quit the club. You are always welcome to use a majia and check us out. This club is not intended as a base for isolation or a launch pad for personal attacks. It is a place purely devoted to English skills. It is a really a shame that Doc would pull people out of a club just to make people take sides. I dont see how he sabotages an educational club would help his cause. Yes, he has succeeded in pulling 20 people out of my English club and he can claim it is a win-lose-lose situation for himself. But ultimately, it is a lose-lose-lose situation.


1 [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-08 22:03:16 提到][删除][修改] [FROM: 98.119.]
Do you have any traces of honor and integrity left in your body? What a piece of human trash. How hard is it to admit you were wrong? What a stupid, arrogant, crazy bitch. Your bark is worse than your bite. Pathetic loser. You promote a 'clean' medi. Yet, you started a club for the sole purpose of shitting in it.You are a disgrace to the human race.

Read this and you know how it started and what I said is exactly what Doc said to me in English. And he said it a dozen of times to me.

http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_7773_142905.html

1 [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-08 23:51:41 提到][删除][修改]

What I said is half of what you have said to me. What are you whining about? Be a man. Fight fair and square. Dont just shit in your own compound. You thought you will get sympathy from your followers? What you get is despise from your sympathizers.

2 [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-08 23:05:40 提到][删除][修改]
Clearly you have no comprehension of English. You have a low EQ. You are clueless here. Why dont you shut your mouth? Be a man and make an apology to me. I have apologized to you a dozen of times. What I get is spit-at-my-face every time in return. Do you have any integrity and honor left in u?

3. All said and done. You truly think you gain the upper hand by locking me outside? You truly think I will lose without getting into your club? Seriously, dont flatter yourself. I have connections to match into a good University program already. I personally know a couple of Chinese PDs and American PDs. Give me a break already.

Lexian (蒙古大夫) 于 (Thu Feb 11 12:11:31 2010, 美东) 提到:

I think you are pointing this to me. I can honestly tell you i don't have
any MaJia. never had and never will. I don't hold personal grudge against
anybody, especially this one. it's not worth my time.

However, i think you are biased by assuming people who are against tyranny
and unjust are against anyone specifically. I can only speak for myself
because i really don't know anyone else that got into similar kind of
argument with him. I have no intention of "打击正在做的人", but that doesn't
mean i won't say "WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS NO RIGHT" when i see posts like
the one i respond to.

As i have stated long long time ago, CMG's history in this country are short
. Our mission goes far beyond getting into residency. A public forum that
attracts examiners, residents and PRACTICING PHYSICIANS is very important in
exchange information and experience. I just can't help laughing when i see
some guy who happen to got into residency wants to "harmonize" the forum. I
can honestly say the game just starts AFTER you graduate. Please refrain
from your "GOD" like euphoria of getting into the residency,

发信人: amanda12 (digest08), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 08:01:00 2010, 美东)

我想说的是,作为一名医生,应该有更高的道德标准,宽容心和同情心,医生是和人打
交道的职业,会碰到各种各样人,首先我们想到的是他是我的病人,不管他是杀人犯还
是某某人大代表,穷人和富人,都要统一对待。不会因为别人过激言语或者什么而去计
较,要这有宽容心,能站在他人的角度去理解对方,这才会得到对方的信任。不要动不
动就对别人丢WSN。。。你只会显出你心胸狭隘,既与你的医生身份不配,也会让人鄙
视!以前看过你在丁香园的帖子,貌似你没完成专科移植是因为2老美因为你手术做得
好排挤你。
别人稍与你意见不同就恶言相向,言辞激烈,这是你说服别人的办法吗?是从一名医生
口里出来的话吗?要得到别人的尊重和赞美,同时需要你在本专业的优秀和个人魅力,
一言一行感动别人,取得别人信任,医生更是如此。尊重别人的同时,别人才会尊重你
也许力刀的初衷是好的,但是从他的言语看来,更让人觉得是个暴发户。。。。

发信人: Viky (转身插口袋), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 20:03:42 2010, 美东)

只有250才会在网上显摆自己的薪水,当年这厮也显摆自己在osu的薪水,现在总算得到
头的"亲徕"了

发信人: redasuka (EVA-02), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 03:59:15 2010, 美东)

没啥奇怪的,考版的那些人本身就花了比一般PhD多得多的时间和精力,当然希望能换
来一点优越感。何况不少大陆的MD最后在北美都是在做内科儿科什么的,每天工作也很
压抑,只好靠贬低别人获得一点心理安慰啦。

说实话,我在这边认识的混得好的中国MD还没有Bio/BME的faculty比率高,绝大多数30
-40岁的Attending还是处在天天接待黑哥们的境界,收入税前也就100k多点。真正混得
好、拿大钱的的MD,那是少数,而且基本都是白人。

不是说老中没有MD混得好的,只不过那些混得好的是人家真牛,在哪一行能牛起来。至
于只是为了混碗饭吃的,还是要多掂量几下自己折腾的起不。

发信人: Kiwixi (kiwi), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 04:05:37 2010, 美东)

这斯绝对是凭着CMG来美国弄了一个博后的位子。可想而知,实验室做的一塌糊涂,老
板天天骂,连老婆也看不起,留空就跑到楼外面捡烟屁股抽。
然后就考了版,摇身一变就成了医生。

薪水涨了,心魔却去不了,跟同行比,口音重,年龄大,还是来这里显摆,
打着普渡众生的幌子,年复一年贴几个链接,满足自己的虚荣心。本来考版当医生就是
一个职业,非要搞成一个崇拜一个图腾,入门的教众齐颂文成武德哈里路亚癫狂不已。

你那几个链接还是自己留在记事本里吧。不需要你这样自上而下的伪善。

最后送你几句话,真的是为你好,淡定一些,从容一些,都快半百的人了。

他人骑大马,我独跨驴子,回顾担柴汉,心下较些子。
发信人: snowfox01 (白面狐), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 14:16:58 2010, 美东)


我可以理解许多国人为五斗米折腰,想得到需要的信息。但是十年前的经验今天不一定
适用了。而且他像传销一样给许多老CMG False hope,一些老毕业生像打了鸡血一样跟
随他, 做了不且实际的选择, 也不知害了多少家庭。精神病人很可怕, 若他再领着
一帮人, 这帮人真是可怜。 take a look:

发信人: USMedEdu (US_CMGs), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版俱乐部(Pre_Resident_Club)成立!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 10:45:26 2010, 美东)

click the link and go to club site to apply. Once you apply there, your ID
will be in waiting list for approval.

发信人: lostknife (麦地俯卧撑), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版俱乐部(Pre_Resident_Club)成立!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 13:03:31 2010, 美东)

I fully support the idea and be happy to join.
But it shows:抱歉, 缺少参数, 加入俱乐部失败!
please advise what I should do to join the club.
Thanks.

发信人: lostknife (麦地俯卧撑), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 考版俱乐部(Pre_Resident_Club)成立!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 22 13:05:16 2010, 美东)

By the way, I am a good-egg who hate the bad-egg!

【 在 meigui0714 (rose) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谢谢你的(USMedEdu)忠告。"听人劝,吃饱饭"。我会好自为之的。
: 但是,一个好的论坛氛围,需要大家的努力。我们做为老生,应该已实事求是的态度引: 导后生们走好,走稳自己的路。人生只有一次,尤其是毕业时间长,没有经历过美国正: 规教育的老生们,我们已经没有"试验”"尝试"的时间了。三思而后行, 一旦做出了决: 定,就不要犹豫,大刀阔fu, 勇往直前。
: 尊敬的老前辈,这里是公共论坛,不是你个人的博客。老了,不但应该"自尊,自爱",: 更要尊重他人的不同看法,意见,这样才能赢得更多的尊敬。“唯我独尊”“我是老: 大我怕谁”的心态是万万要不得的。这里不是"黑色会”,这里不需要“教父”!: 读者的眼睛是雪亮的,这个论坛的读者们都是受过高等教育的,相信他们清楚,谁更浅薄。


发信人: Oncogene (何时问天), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Oct 20 18:22:24 2010, 美东)

不要再“尔等,尔等”的了,让人看了烦。身边考版做医生的太多太多了,也没见几个
这么嚣张的。

我不相信这世界有啥救世主。试图做救世主的,脑袋真的需要MRI啦

发信人: yoyoch (yoyoch), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Oct 20 23:39:59 2010, 美东)

素质,素质。
风度,风度。

发信人: KeeVan (Kevin), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Oct 20 23:57:59 2010, 美东)

你说你瞎急啥。就是因为你没说赚多少钱,但是又说生物wsn泛酸,我没看明白人家为什么泛酸。讨论讨论问题不行啊,你这素质也太低贱了,我看还是别行医了

发信人: pigsun (屁哥~~大圣教候补二师兄), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 01:07:33 2010, 美东)

散了吧,老刀确实不是来劝退的,也不是故意显摆,其实,他就是专门来找抽的...
--
哈,说出来心里舒服多哩

发信人: Oncogene (何时问天), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 01:25:47 2010, 美东)

我都懒得抽她。这么大年纪了,好好说话会死啊??

发信人: Oncogene (何时问天), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 01:33:02 2010, 美东)

最后回你一贴吧:
你还是真是个幻想狂人唉。还有吧,就你这口气和心态,现实中能过得舒服还真是见了鬼了。算了,刚才说了,说你也是白说。你还是好好找工作吧,最好找个$1million/yr的,可千万别把自己的高等生活给葬送了呀,走到今天(昨天)也怪不容易的。。。

发信人: Oncogene (何时问天), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 01:48:19 2010, 美东)

^_^,你这风向转的还真快

靠骂别人或者教训别人是不可能有效传播自己的信息的。就这种性格,他下个工作也
干不久,哪个上下级能受得了这种人啊。好象别人没见过钱没见过医生没见过成功
人士一样,一副高高在上的架势,受不了。

发信人: newlily (lily), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 09:18:43 2010, 美东)

老刀,本来我是挺尊敬您的,想从您的帖子学点东西,结果谩骂满篇,没有一点有用的东西。

发信人: Viky (转身插口袋), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 11:19:53 2010, 美东)

这厮两次被fired了,还特喜欢到处指手画脚

标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 14:10:26 2010, 美东)

1.相信大家都有北美工作经验,新chair来了,就辞掉所有的人,可能吗?道是有可能
。。。。,

2.“加拿大拿的工资比美国大学薪水要高一倍可工
: 作量才是美国的1/4(其实俺每天1小时就干完了!)” 这种事情只会发生在社会主义
中国。 加拿大? 你可别弄的跟唐骏似的。
3.你是为了祖国加拿大的医学发展,毅然决然放弃了美国的高薪
工作,回到了加拿大了吧。

发信人: Viky (转身插口袋), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 给生物同学们: dojo: 走进美国医学院之旅
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 21 11:31:42 2010, 美东)

正常个p, 被fired了就是被fired, 没见过这么不要脸的


【 在 USMedEdu (US_CMGs) 的大作中提到: 】
: 窝草! 俺自己在网上说过,还怕你来拾俺的鞋后跟泥巴砸俺不成?
: 被新chair辞了,换朝换臣找新工作在北美不是常事吗?哪个医生老死在一个单位的?
: 俺要再显摆一把告诉你俺现在在加拿大拿的工资比美国大学薪水要高一倍可工
: 作量才是美国的1/4(其实俺每天1小时就干完了!)你丫的又该酸掉几个牙?
: 尔等难怪人家说生物萎缩,真TMD不亏!




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1 [Viky 于 2010-11-12 09:42:23 提到][删除] [FROM: 152.11.]
劝 lz别跟那个老250浪费时间了。。
 
2   [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-19 00:43:04 提到] [FROM: 98.]
I cant believe this kind of idiot exists in this world. Two words to describe this piece of human trash: shameless and stupid. USMedEdu, aka, MadDog, put the following thread in his blog and bolded it in the front page. Yet, clearly, the answers he endorsed are the worst answers. The answer I provided got a nod from an English forum. Does he understand the concept of shame or logic? Not only he speaks/writes shitty English, he cant think straight either. And now he wants to drag everyone down with him. PITY! What kind of dumb ass slaps his own face in public? What a joke!
无极: 住院医生面试碰到的尴尬事( 力刀评注推荐及麦地网友讨论)

Doc has successfully sabotaged a good learning club. At the peak, the pre_resident_english_corner had over 95 members and hundreds of posts. Congratulations! I will jot down a few expressions and new words here and there for myself mostly. Sorry friends. I let you down. You guys are the only losers as the bystanders caught in the cross-fire between the two warring parties. Ironically, both of the two people at war came out as the only two 'winners'. Doc can claim his star power. I can focus on my study.

Clearly, this USMedEd cant think straight anymore at his age. To give his credit where credit is due, he is still good at copying/pasting of the posts written by others. Follow his rubbish advice at your peril. We can write a laundry list of his shitty advice. This is a guy who cant keep his job for long. I am still wondering why he had to side with the losing party in a political struggle at work as he put it in one of his posts. Most people would not get involved. Only confrontational and aggressive douche bags would go for it. They can be burned again and again and are still clueless as it is just bad luck and not their faults whatsoever.

It is not just me saying this. Read this:
[snowfox01 于 2010-11-02 17:25:32 提到] [FROM: 134.74.]
Dr.Newbie:Please be nice to this old man。
难道你没看见你把他生命中唯一的支柱----收集各种贴子,然后大言不惭的copy&post 到自己的网页。给打碎了。同时,他在麦地的“一手遮天” 用那二十年前的狗屁经验来误导新人,也让你给揭穿了。我能理解他的恼羞成怒。他也没几天了,就让他乐呵乐呵吧。

There is no doubt that my English is better than anyone else including Eric and that lumcsomething. I was actually touched by the applications to my club every day during this short time. While I am still trying to figuring out the best way to get people energized and the best way to help, it went kaboom. It is such a pity. Just imagine how much more I can help once I get into residency and finish it.

I am sorry it has gone this far. This dokknife has been attacking me relentlessly on anything I write for no good reason. I have to stand up for myself. He said it himself: He does not care whether I am right or wrong. So he makes it personal. Now, he got it. It is personal between him and me.

Feel free to say hello to me at your leisure. I dont have time to play with this piece of human trash and a sadist who excels in copying/pasting and who cant keep his jobs for long. Let him have his schadenfreude from how the ex-boss who canned him got divorced. Let him brag how successful he is in dismantling a learning place.

Lets watch which comes first: I get into residency or he got fired.

并爱好给人改错的蠢人的发言更充分地反映出其愚蠢和无知,她的所谓良好英语在她的愚蠢脑袋支配下成了砸她自己脚的石头。此人在麦地已经贩卖了无数的垃圾和错误得东西。我实在无法忍受这种蠢人无休无止地误导CMG.
-----Doc.
乌龟总是对眼王八,狼和狈总是为奸。
你和这个混球对上眼很正常。装糊涂装黄花大姑娘真有坐台小姐得姿态嘛。
-----Doc
你这WSN还真是咸吃萝卜蛋操心.
-----Doc
耗子乌龟王八苍蝇和垃圾.
-----Doc
狗屁不懂的蠢货,愚蠢跳粱BSO牛Xer还真是第一次出现。各位可以饱眼福了.
-----Doc
换王八壳子来口水的蠢货的蠢言蠢语愚不可及的暴露,她懂个狗P.
-----Doc

You all think this is acceptable and a good presentation of character? What I said back is half what he has said to me. Every time I make an apology to him, I got spit-at-your-face response in return.

It is a pity to see a good club falling apart. At least I have the decency not to use my club as a venting joint. I am sorry that you are put between a rock and a hard place. I will understand if you have to quit the club. You are always welcome to use a majia and check us out. This club is not intended as a base for isolation or a launch pad for personal attacks. It is a place purely devoted to English skills. It is a really a shame that Doc would pull people out of a club just to make people take sides. I dont see how he sabotages an educational club would help his cause. Yes, he has succeeded in pulling 20 people out of my English club and he can claim it is a win-lose-lose situation for himself. But ultimately, it is a lose-lose-lose situation.


1 [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-08 22:03:16 提到][删除][修改] [FROM: 98.119.]
Do you have any traces of honor and integrity left in your body? What a piece of human trash. How hard is it to admit you were wrong? What a stupid, arrogant, crazy bitch. Your bark is worse than your bite. Pathetic loser. You promote a 'clean' medi. Yet, you started a club for the sole purpose of shitting in it.You are a disgrace to the human race.

Read this and you know how it started and what I said is exactly what Doc said to me in English. And he said it a dozen of times to me.

http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_7773_142905.html

1 [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-08 23:51:41 提到][删除][修改]

What I said is half of what you have said to me. What are you whining about? Be a man. Fight fair and square. Dont just shit in your own compound. You thought you will get sympathy from your followers? What you get is despise from your sympathizers.

2 [DrNewbie 于 2010-11-08 23:05:40 提到][删除][修改]
Clearly you have no comprehension of English. You have a low EQ. You are clueless here. Why dont you shut your mouth? Be a man and make an apology to me. I have apologized to you a dozen of times. What I get is spit-at-my-face every time in return. Do you have any integrity and honor left in u?

3. All said and done. You truly think you gain the upper hand by locking me outside? You truly think I will lose without getting into your club? Seriously, dont flatter yourself. I have connections to match into a good University program already. I personally know a couple of Chinese PDs and American PDs. Give me a break already.
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1 [Viky 于 2010-11-12 09:42:23 提到][删除] [FROM: 152.11.]
劝lz别跟那个老250浪费时间了。。
 
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