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eric: on FMG and Residency Match
作者:USMedEdu
发表时间:2010-11-01
更新时间:2010-11-01
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发信人: ericusa (eric), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 31 16:31:30 2010, 美东)

It's true that many programs have obligation to recruit AMGs. However, some
good university programs like IMGs' research experiences; some community
programs prefer people with extensive clinical experiences so the new hires
can take care of patients from day one; and those “less-desirable”
programs have a hard time to attract enough AMGs.

So there are still plenty opportunities for IMGs.

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发信人: DrNewbie (NN), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 31 22:05:41 2010, 美东)

The thing is it is getting even more tougher to land any other jobs. The residency is still the best bet for the Ph.D students. And, the scores do not expire. You will have this option open for 10 yrs.
【 在 lovelypony (lovelypony) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不是版上说今年形势特别糟糕,以后只会越来越难吗?记得去年版上贴出来很多IV,好
: 像今年就很冷清~~


发信人: DrNewbie (NN), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 31 22:14:39 2010, 美东)

Are you insinuating people like me who have no prior clinical and research
experience arent going to be well received?

【 在 ericusa (eric) 的大作中提到: 】
: It's true that many programs have obligation to recruit AMGs. However,
some


发信人: kittydoggy (snowlotus), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 00:44:26 2010, 美东)

Is your ob experience not Clinical Experience?
Do you see that your special talents and humor NOT be well received?
And, Is it not true that“less-desirable”programs make no difference,
although so many people said contrarily?

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※ 修改:·kaye 於 Nov 1 02:52:24 2010 修改本文·[FROM: 128.111.]


发信人: DrNewbie (NN), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 01:08:31 2010, 美东)

You are being very mean along with another guy who has been banned already. You are walking on a thin line. One more step will put you out for 2 weeks.

Clearly to most people, the extensive clinical experience Eric referred to does not include OB. Point out one single person who could take care of the patients from day 1 after having shadowed a few doctors.

Clearly, as pointed out by Eric, these lesser programs want people who can work right away. They want experienced doctors as cheap labor. I am at disadvantage by Eric's account.

What do u mean by contrarily? Pardon my ignorance.



发信人: kittydoggy (snowlotus), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 02:14:23 2010, 美东)


Per Eric, “less-desirable”programs are listed against programs that value
researches and programs that desperately want interns who can be independent
"from day one" . And I thought the training in“less-desirable”programs
makes no difference with "desirable" programs in most of situations as long
as you get in. Correct me if I am wrong.

Moreover, if you can't start from day one, may be you could start work from
day 30, as apposed to others that do not have ob experience, who may feel
like walking on the thin lines even on day 90.

My point is, see your advantages. But sometimes, I believe Gods favor those
with apparent disadvantages in life.
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发信人: DrNewbie (NN), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 02:23:42 2010, 美东)

Per Eric, people with no prior extensive clinical and research experience
will have harder time. But many in this category have got just as many IVs.
So he is wrong. And you are with me. I dont see where we are going with
this.


发信人: kaye ([email protected][email protected]~埋底海豚~热爱游泳), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 03:04:18 2010, 美东)

Per Eric, there is no point to argue on this. We all agree that we should
work hard and work toward our best interest, always, profession wise.


发信人: ericusa (eric), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 07:59:20 2010, 美东)

I just listed some examples. Another example is in some programs with IMG
PDs they actually prefer IMG candidates. In the "less desirable" category
there are plenty pretty good programs, only because they are community
programs or located at less desirable locations.

Anyway the total package counts:
- Visa status
- Graduation year
- USMLE scores
- LoRs
- Clinical experience
- Research background
- Interview performance
- Well-rounded
- Commitment to the specialty
- Connection

The key: you're a better "fit" to the program.. So work hard to improve your
application.

Last year an AMG from my school had to do scramble (his Step 1 score ~220).
If you look at his CV there were basically no extracurricular activities.
In contrast, the matched U.S. seniors in 2009 had these characteristics:
Mean number of research experiences: 2.2
Mean number of work experiences: 2.7
Mean number of volunteer experiences: 6.2

For people without prior research and clinical experiences, try to improve
your application by involving:
1) Clinical observership
This won't be counted as USCE, but it can familiarize yourself with the U.S.
healthcare system and to show your interest in the medical profession. If
you can get a good LoR that's even better, because the letter usually will
include your attitude, desire, people skill and communication skill.

2) Volunteer work
This shows your willingness for helping people and your community. Only
selfish and lazy people don't want to help others.


Interview performance is extremely important, as many people already pointed
out (check the JinHuaQu and Dok's blog). Once you're invited for an
interview, scores etc. will play a less important role. People from the
program will judge you on your personality, attitude, appearance, knowledge,
and communication skill. The chemistry between you and the program is vital
, because a program wants to hire a person who is competent and pleasant to
work with for the next several years.

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发信人: USMedEdu (US_CMGs), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 除了鼓励,说几句实用的给lovelypony--还有其他准备考试的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 1 12:13:11 2010, 美东)

ERIC 和你说的都很好!
我全赞同。

没必要与那些狗P不懂还要来装蒜胡搅蛮缠的小人浪费时间。
ERIC是很有经验和训练的AMG,他在这个论坛所说的、所花费得时间都是为了绝大多
数CMG好。其实他根本没必要来这里,但他来了,做了。这很难得!
一个论坛能有一个这样的热人很难得,但有一个苍蝇,可以很快把论坛搞黄。

如果因这个帖ID可以被封,so be it! 也只能说明这个论坛将没有什么希望,很快
会其实已经开始荒凉--与两年前相比--和烂掉!


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【 在 kittydoggy (snowlotus) 的大作中提到: 】
: Per Eric, “less-desirable”programs are listed against programs that
value

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