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比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
[版面:美国新闻][首篇作者:jerrycasper] , 2019年02月12日10:39:32 ,1059次阅读,15次回复
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标  题: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 10:39:32 2019, 美东)

文革婆拿出珍藏的武装带,电诈高举着廉价镰刀,就等着AOC的号令,革命鸟革命鸟

Bill Gates slams Ocasio-Cortez, says her tax policy is 'missing the picture'

Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, who has a net worth approaching $100
billion, has slammed tax policies like the one put forth by Alexandria
Ocasio-Cortez, saying they miss the larger picture and could create tax
dodging.

Speaking on a podcast at tech website The Verge, Gates noted that while tax
rates can be "more progressive," going to extremes such as the one put forth
by Ocasio-Cortez, which would tax income above $10 million at a 70 percent
rate, misses the broader scope.

"Certainly, the idea of government being more effective in terms of how it
runs education or social programs, there’s a lot of opportunity for
improvement there," Gates said in the podcast. "In terms of revenue
collection, you wouldn’t want to just focus on the ordinary income rate,
because people who are wealthy have a rounding error of ordinary income."

He continued: "They have income that just is the value of their stock, which
if they don’t sell it, it doesn’t show up as income at all, or if it
shows up, it shows over in the capital gains side. So the ability of hedge
fund people, various people — they aren’t paying that ordinary income rate
."

"The one thing that never gets much press — the IRS shows the statistics
for the top 400 people of the highest income and the rate they pay," Gates
went on to say. "Anyway, you should look at that. It’s about a 20 percent
rate, so it has nothing to do with the 39.6 marginal ordinary income rate.
So it’s a misfocus. If you focus on that, you’re missing the picture."

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/bill-gates-slams-ocasio-cortez-says-her-tax-policy-is-missing-the-picture
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发信人: songshuguiyu (松鼠桂鱼), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 10:45:46 2019, 美东)

应该先抄破锣西的家

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标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 11:02:02 2019, 美东)

“the IRS shows the statistics for the top 400 people of the highest income
and the rate they pay," Gates went on to say. "Anyway, you should look at
that. It’s about a 20 percent rate”

这段话是精髓。最富的400人,税率只有20%,远远到不了门槛。你提高到100%都跟他们
没有一毛钱关系。
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发信人: sweetsister (甜甜), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 11:09:53 2019, 美东)

鸡儿猫受过啥刺激啊这是?

就你那三瓜俩枣的收入,还怕收税?

Get a life, before it's too late.


【 在 jerrycasper (Cat) 的大作中提到: 】
: 文革婆拿出珍藏的武装带,电诈高举着廉价镰刀,就等着AOC的号令,革命鸟革命鸟
: Bill Gates slams Ocasio-Cortez, says her tax policy is 'missing the
picture'
: Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, who has a net worth approaching $100
: billion, has slammed tax policies like the one put forth by Alexandria
: Ocasio-Cortez, saying they miss the larger picture and could create tax
: dodging.
: Speaking on a podcast at tech website The Verge, Gates noted that while
tax
: rates can be "more progressive," going to extremes such as the one put
forth
:  by Ocasio-Cortez, which would tax income above $10 million at a 70
percent
: rate, misses the broader scope.
: ...................



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发信人: songshuguiyu (松鼠桂鱼), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 11:17:42 2019, 美东)

妈的要饭还这么理直气壮

【 在 sweetsister (甜甜) 的大作中提到: 】
: 鸡儿猫受过啥刺激啊这是?
: 就你那三瓜俩枣的收入,还怕收税?
: Get a life, before it's too late.
: picture'
: tax
: forth
: percent



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发信人: monmon (For the Horde!), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 11:19:45 2019, 美东)

bill gates是说了实话了吧?
为啥那些民主党politician不提给capital gain 加税?
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发信人: sweetsister (甜甜), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 11:24:01 2019, 美东)

给资产加税就没问题了,

房地产都要每年交地税呢,每年交点资产持有税,合理嘛


【 在 monmon (For the Horde!) 的大作中提到: 】
: bill gates是说了实话了吧?
: 为啥那些民主党politician不提给capital gain 加税?



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发信人: idong360 (bull), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 12:02:48 2019, 美东)

费那牛劲,直接共产了得了。

【在  sweetsister(甜甜)的大作中提到:】
:给资产加税就没问题了,


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发信人: amateuridiot (业余阿呆), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 13:52:57 2019, 美东)



【在  sweetsister(甜甜)的大作中提到:】
:给资产加税就没问题了,

房产税归根结底是因为房主享有所在社区的服务,需要承担服务的成本,和汽车注册费
是一个理。其他资产缴税则完全不合理。资产如果没有收益凭什么缴税。甜妈你床单下
藏一千块钱,每年还要给政府拿掉一百块,这是什么理? 
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发信人: insect9 (insect9), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 14:44:43 2019, 美东)

相信我,给capital gain加税他们依然还是有办法不交。重要的是各种deduction

【在  monmon(For the Horde!)的大作中提到:】
:bill gates是说了实话了吧?
:为啥那些民主党politician不提给capital gain 加税?

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标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 15:55:03 2019, 美东)

索罗斯又不是做慈善的。这些人一天到晚装高尚。是因为加税根本加不到他们头上。

【 在 monmon (For the Horde!) 的大作中提到: 】
: bill gates是说了实话了吧?
: 为啥那些民主党politician不提给capital gain 加税?




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标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 18:59:26 2019, 美东)



【在  bud(BUD)的大作中提到:】
:索罗斯又不是做慈善的。这些人一天到晚装高尚。是因为加税根本加不到他们头上。

索罗斯也做慈善,他的钱很多都捐出去用来制造混乱,颠覆各国统治阶级了。
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发信人: laoselang (LAOSELANG(好吧,别打了,我就是兔子)), 信区: USANews
标  题: Re: 比尔盖茨这下该被抄家批斗了吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 22:44:58 2019, 美东)

所以说,最佳的税率是超富目前实际税率加上他们的逃税成本

例如把税率降低到25%,富人是选择支付巨额的逃税成本继续交20%呢,还是选择交
满25%不逃税?我想除非他们的逃税成本低于5%, 否则没有哪个sb会折腾半天(还有风
险),只是为了5%减去逃税成本那么一丁点利益。



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