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标  题: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 01:55:09 2002) WWW-POST

besids iggy


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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 02:32:02 2002) WWW-POST

The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
the earlier Cure was very punkish..
Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band from
DC.. .
I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..

thekid

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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 04:23:11 2002) WWW-POST

I listened to bad brains a lot. but i don't like hardcore very much, instead i
like their 'i and i will survive'
I like old school punk like iggy's 'come on everbody(?)'

【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band
from
: DC.. .
: I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
:
: thekid
:
: 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : besids iggy
: :
: :
:
:


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发信人: Logan (Logan), 信区: Rock
标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 10:48:35 2002) WWW-POST

Old School:  punk rock in 70's ?

Sex pistol(do I need to mention this one?)
Ramones(My favorite), My 1st choice 'Ramones Mania' when I need to drive for
more than 10 hrs.
undertones, pop-punk, but far better than today's blink 182, green day.
the Damned, the jam, buzzcocks, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Adverts,.....


Compare with 70's, today's punk rock really sucks. Almost all are pop-punk
bands. and All songs are similiar.

Hardcore punk, You should try Dead Kennedys's Fresh Fruit for Rotting
Vegetables. This is the best hard core punk album ever released I think. It's
definitely worthy listening. Even this band's other albums are not near as
good as this one. Also try meat puppets(kurt cobain really like this band),
black flag, fugazi and husker du.


【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: I listened to bad brains a lot. but i don't like hardcore very much, instead
i
: like their 'i and i will survive'
: I like old school punk like iggy's 'come on everbody(?)'
:
: 【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: : the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: : Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band
: from
: : DC.. .
: : I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: : Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
: :
: : thekid
: :
: : 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : besids iggy
: : :
: : :
: :
: :
:
:


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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 10:48:54 2002) WWW-POST

the clash... and modern lovers... u don't get any older than modern lovers.


【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: I listened to bad brains a lot. but i don't like hardcore very much, instead
i
: like their 'i and i will survive'
: I like old school punk like iggy's 'come on everbody(?)'
:
: 【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: : the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: : Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band
: from
: : DC.. .
: : I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: : Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
: :
: : thekid
: :
: : 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : besids iggy
: : :
: : :
: :
: :
:
:


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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 10:50:26 2002) WWW-POST

no way dude.. the best hardcore punk album ever released wasy Refused's The
shape of punk to come. Named after Ornette Coleman's album.. the shape of jazz
to come.

thekid.
【 在 Logan (Logan) 的大作中提到: 】
: Old School:  punk rock in 70's ?
:
: Sex pistol(do I need to mention this one?)
: Ramones(My favorite), My 1st choice 'Ramones Mania' when I need to drive for
: more than 10 hrs.
: undertones, pop-punk, but far better than today's blink 182, green day.
: the Damned, the jam, buzzcocks, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Adverts,.....
:
:
: Compare with 70's, today's punk rock really sucks. Almost all are pop-punk
: bands. and All songs are similiar.
:
: Hardcore punk, You should try Dead Kennedys's Fresh Fruit for Rotting
: Vegetables. This is the best hard core punk album ever released I think.
It's
: definitely worthy listening. Even this band's other albums are not near as
: good as this one. Also try meat puppets(kurt cobain really like this band),
: black flag, fugazi and husker du.
:
:
: 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I listened to bad brains a lot. but i don't like hardcore very much,
instead
: i
: : like their 'i and i will survive'
: : I like old school punk like iggy's 'come on everbody(?)'
: :
: : 【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: : : the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: : : Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk
band
: : from
: : : DC.. .
: : : I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: : : Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
: : :
: : : thekid
: : :
: : : 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : : besids iggy
: : : :
: : : :
: : :
: : :
: :
: :
:
:


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发信人: Logan (Logan), 信区: Rock
标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 11:19:06 2002) WWW-POST

There is no position for the band you mentioned  in the top 10, or 20 best
hardcore punk bands. Those guys were only little kids when the best hardcore
punk albums appeared in 80's. But if you like it, that's Ok. That's your best.


By the way, How many punk albums do u have and how many have u listend to? If
only 10, 20, don't make your decision so fast. that's only the best album of
your all 10 albums.

【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: no way dude.. the best hardcore punk album ever released wasy Refused's The
: shape of punk to come. Named after Ornette Coleman's album.. the shape of
jazz
: to come.
:
: thekid.
: 【 在 Logan (Logan) 的大作中提到: 】
: : Old School:  punk rock in 70's ?
: :
: : Sex pistol(do I need to mention this one?)
: : Ramones(My favorite), My 1st choice 'Ramones Mania' when I need to drive
for
: : more than 10 hrs.
: : undertones, pop-punk, but far better than today's blink 182, green day.
: : the Damned, the jam, buzzcocks, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Adverts,.....
: :
: :
: : Compare with 70's, today's punk rock really sucks. Almost all are pop-punk
: : bands. and All songs are similiar.
: :
: : Hardcore punk, You should try Dead Kennedys's Fresh Fruit for Rotting
: : Vegetables. This is the best hard core punk album ever released I think.
: It's
: : definitely worthy listening. Even this band's other albums are not near as
: : good as this one. Also try meat puppets(kurt cobain really like this
band),
: : black flag, fugazi and husker du.
: :
: :
: : 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : I listened to bad brains a lot. but i don't like hardcore very much,
: instead
: : i
: : : like their 'i and i will survive'
: : : I like old school punk like iggy's 'come on everbody(?)'
: : :
: : : 【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : : The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: : : : the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: : : : Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk
: band
: : : from
: : : : DC.. .
: : : : I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: : : : Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
: : : :
: : : : thekid
: : : :
: : : : 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : : : besids iggy
: : : : :
: : : : :
: : : :








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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 11:43:43 2002) WWW-POST

hahah.. woah.. easy there tiger.. I should've added a smiles in there.. yah..
it is only my opinion.. I actually own quite a few punk albums... and not to
mention that all my skating videos are full of punk music.. if u like punk..
then did u ever check out the Warp tour? I saw bouncing souls, pennywise,
dropkick murphy, orange 9mm... too bad bad religion wasn't playing that
particular tour.. I really wanted to see them..
Refused is relatively new.. and they are from sweden.. and they broke up right
after making the shape of punk to come.. have u heard it? I personally think
it is the best hardcore punk album because it is progressive.. it is more than
just punk.. it had alot of content... alot of thoughts were put into it...
when it is hard.. it is hard.. when it drops.. it still keeps ur attention..
and I like the lead singer than alot of other hardcore punk bands... I hate
the low growling voice.. I think that is rather pretencious.. Refused... and a
few other bands.. they scream like how you would scream regularly.. I mean..
which one of us growls in a low voice when we are pissed off..or agitated.. I
know I just scream at the top of lung.. to me, Refused and a few other bands
like them are much more honest and real..
hmm.. if u like hardcore punk.. should check them out if u haven't already.

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发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 11:58:23 2002) WWW-POST

hmm.. also... just because somebody came first.. that doesn't make them
automatically the best.. hehe..
and while we r on the topic of punk... u know what my biggest gripe with punk
is?... lack of intelligence... alot of punk are just thuggish white kids to
act silly and tough.. that is my opinion btw.. :-) However, just because it is
punk doesn't mean it has to be the lowest denominator... I think the clash,
sex pistols, modern lovers, the cure, and later punk bands like pennywise...
bad religion.. refused.. are some of the true punk bands.. I feel angry.. I
feel the same anger that drives the music.. but what drives me further into
the mosh pit is the content of the music... it becomes something more than
just some pissed off looking dude standing up on stage and screaming at the
top of his lung.. screaming then simply becomes a facilitator that's used to
express the content.. and is the result of understanding the content.. I
personally like that better.. and it is the same reason why I can only stand
death metal for a brief moment..

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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 12:02:47 2002) WWW-POST

The Clash is great, but the reason they are great is partly because they were
not so "Punk" compare with contempory Punk bands in UK.
"London Calling", "The Clash", "Sandinista!" are all great albums.
For Pre-Punk, you need to check The Velvet Underground, The stooges and Iggy
Pop, The Ramonds, The MC5.
For UK Punk, there are The Sex Pistol, The Clash, The Damns, etc.
For US Punk, there are the New York Dolls and some other CBGB stuff.
For Post-Punk and New Waves, there are the Television, the Cure, Elvis
Costello, Talking Heads, The Smiths, Joy Divisions, The Bauhaus, The Jams,
Modern Lovers, The Falls, The Blondies...



【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band
from
: DC.. .
: I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
:
: thekid
:
: 【 在 underground (anti-com/cap) 的大作中提到: 】
: : besids iggy
: :
: :
:
:

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发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 12:23:08 2002) WWW-POST

uhnn? modern lovers's self titled album came out before sex pistol's..
the drummer went to the cars.. the keyboardist joined talking heads.. and
ex-violinist of the velvet underground produced half of the album..
hmm.. I have heard that velvet underground was one of the bands that started
it all.. alot of the later punk bands were influenced by them..
hehe.. what does the clash have anything to do with contemporary punk bands in
UK? they came out the sametime as the sex pistols.. I think the clash is one
of the few bands that pushed the boundaries of punk.. moved away from the
simple progressions of power chords.. yet kept true to the punk mentality..
and attitudes..
I actually dislike the ramones.. and alot of the cbgb punk bands.. dont know
why.. hehe.. I just think they all sound the same.. and lack originality in
their later works.. but.. hehehe. it is just my opinion..

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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 12:25:25 2002) WWW-POST

ahh.. u heard that Lou Reed is coming out with a new album.. that consist only
2 words from this guy.  hehe..

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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 12:46:15 2002), 转信

For US Punk...lou reed and black flag...

【 在 MrRain ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() 的大作中提到: 】
: The Clash is great, but the reason they are great is partly because they were
: not so "Punk" compare with contempory Punk bands in UK.
: "London Calling", "The Clash", "Sandinista!" are all great albums.
: For Pre-Punk, you need to check The Velvet Underground, The stooges and Iggy
: Pop, The Ramonds, The MC5.
: For UK Punk, there are The Sex Pistol, The Clash, The Damns, etc.
: For US Punk, there are the New York Dolls and some other CBGB stuff.
: For Post-Punk and New Waves, there are the Television, the Cure, Elvis
: Costello, Talking Heads, The Smiths, Joy Divisions, The Bauhaus, The Jams,
: Modern Lovers, The Falls, The Blondies...
: 【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: : the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: : Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band
: from
: : DC.. .
: : I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: : Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
: : thekid


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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 13:01:58 2002) WWW-POST

Siouxsie & the Banshees is a little gothic, isn't it?
a band whose name i forget. it has "addiction with eyeliner" (IME?)
【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: ahh.. u heard that Lou Reed is coming out with a new album.. that consist
only
: 2 words from this guy.  hehe..
:
: thekid
:
:


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发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 13:47:10 2002) WWW-POST

Right, I was wrong, Modern Lovers should be included in Pre-Punk, or
Proto-Punk. In U.S., the punk movement has a lot of relationships with CBGB in
New York, so it's hard to define whether a punk band in CBGB is Proto, U.S.
Punk or Post-punk. Another important artist, Patti Smith is also from there,
although she is widely known as a Folk singer. But one of her influences, Lou
Reed is regarded as godfather of Punk, and her husband, Fred Smith was from
another Pre-Punk band, MC5.
About the Clash, I agree that the Clash is better than their contemporary
bands. For Punk itself, its importance doesn't lie in its music, but its
attitude of breaking through of the past.

【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: uhnn? modern lovers's self titled album came out before sex pistol's..
: the drummer went to the cars.. the keyboardist joined talking heads.. and
: ex-violinist of the velvet underground produced half of the album..
: hmm.. I have heard that velvet underground was one of the bands that started
: it all.. alot of the later punk bands were influenced by them..
: hehe.. what does the clash have anything to do with contemporary punk bands
in
: UK? they came out the sametime as the sex pistols.. I think the clash is one
: of the few bands that pushed the boundaries of punk.. moved away from the
: simple progressions of power chords.. yet kept true to the punk mentality..
: and attitudes..
: I actually dislike the ramones.. and alot of the cbgb punk bands.. dont know
: why.. hehe.. I just think they all sound the same.. and lack originality in
: their later works.. but.. hehehe. it is just my opinion..
:
: thekid.
:
:


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标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 13:43:32 2002) WWW-POST

hehe, yes, I forgot the Black Flag, one of the very few U.S. punk bands that
are not from New York.

【 在 gogowanda (星海湾的一条鱼) 的大作中提到: 】
: For US Punk...lou reed and black flag...
:
: 【 在 MrRain ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() 的大作中提到: 】
: : The Clash is great, but the reason they are great is partly because they
were
: : not so "Punk" compare with contempory Punk bands in UK.
: : "London Calling", "The Clash", "Sandinista!" are all great albums.
: : For Pre-Punk, you need to check The Velvet Underground, The stooges and
Iggy
: : Pop, The Ramonds, The MC5.
: : For UK Punk, there are The Sex Pistol, The Clash, The Damns, etc.
: : For US Punk, there are the New York Dolls and some other CBGB stuff.
: : For Post-Punk and New Waves, there are the Television, the Cure, Elvis
: : Costello, Talking Heads, The Smiths, Joy Divisions, The Bauhaus, The Jams,
: : Modern Lovers, The Falls, The Blondies...
: : 【 在 thekid (不是人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
: : : the earlier Cure was very punkish..
: : : Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk
band
: : from
: : : DC.. .
: : : I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
: : : Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
: : : thekid
:
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发信人: thekid (不是人), 信区: Rock
标  题: Re: recommend some old school punks
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Nov 27 13:53:17 2002) WWW-POST

really? they r married? hmm.. wow.. yah.. I know about the cbgb era... can't
say I liked everything that came out of it.. but def important..
yah.. I do agree that punk is more about attitude than the music itself..
however I think there r many ways to express that attitude.. attitudes doesn't
really change.. but the lingos change.. u know.. like hiphop.. it used to be
"word." now it is like "for sho".. hehe.. not like I care.. the point is that
I love the Clash for their exploration of the punk attitude..
I have just finished reading Grant Green's biography the other day.. one of
his friends said something that I thought was rather profound and
interesting.. it says something like.. a real funk master digs into the funk..
the groove.. and explores it.. break it apart and show you the groove..  I
think the same is true for almost every genre of music.. esp a seemingly
simply genre like punk.

thekid



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