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维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
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标  题: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 20:48:53 2019, 美东)

现在西方正在美国带领下掀起反华狂潮。这个维吾尔人监禁事情正好可以被他们拿来利
用大作文章。搞不好美国会培训一大批维吾尔恐怖分子派回中国起事。
Uighur crackdown: 'I spent seven days of hell in Chinese camps'
The Chinese government calls them free "vocational training centres"
; Aibota Serik, a Chinese Kazakh whose father was sent to one, calls them
prisons.
Her father Kudaybergen Serik was a local imam in Tarbagatay (Tacheng)
prefecture of China's western Xinjiang region. In February 2018 the
police detained him and Aibota hasn't heard from her father since then.
"I don't know why my father was imprisoned. He didn't violate
any laws of China, he was not tried in a court," she says, clutching a
small photo of him, before breaking down in tears.
I met Aibota together with a group of other Chinese Kazakhs in Almaty,
Kazakhstan's largest city. They gathered in a small office to petition
the Kazakh government to help secure the release of their relatives who had
disappeared in "political re-education camps".
China's hidden camps
China's Muslim 'crackdown' explained
China legalises Uighur 're-education'
The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination has heard there
are credible reports that around one million people have been detained in
internment camps in Xinjiang. Almost all of them are from Muslim minorities
such as the Uighurs, Kazakhs and others.
There are more than a million Kazakhs living in China. After the collapse of
the Soviet Union, thousands moved to oil-rich Kazakhstan, encouraged by its
policy to attract ethnic Kazakhs. Today, these people feel cut off from
their relatives who stayed in China.
Nurbulat Tursunjan uulu, who moved to the Almaty region in 2016, says his
elderly parents are unable to leave China and come to Kazakhstan because the
authorities took away their passports.
Another petitioner, Bekmurat Nusupkan uulu, says that relatives in China are
afraid to talk on the phone or on the popular Chinese messaging app WeChat.
And they are right to be afraid, he says.
"My father-in-law visited me in February 2018. From my place, he called
his son in China, he asked how he was and so on. Shortly after that his son
Baurzhan was detained. He was told that he had received phone calls from
Kazakhstan two or three times and was sent to a political camp."
Human Rights Watch says detainees are held "without any due process
rights - neither charged nor put on trial - and have no access to lawyers
and family".
Orynbek Koksybek is an ethnic Kazakh who spent several months in camps.
"I spent seven days of hell there," he says. "My hands were
handcuffed, my legs were tied. They threw me in a pit. I raised both my
hands and looked above. At that moment, they poured water. I screamed.
"I don't remember what happened next. I don't know how long I
was in the pit but it was winter and very cold. They said I was a traitor,
that I had dual citizenship, that I had a debt and owned land."
China rails at Turkey over 'dead musician'
Ex-Blackwater chief's firm eyes Xinjiang
China's Muslim camp spending 'revealed'
None of that was true, he says.
A week later Mr Koksybek was taken to a different place where he learnt
Chinese songs and language. He was told he would leave if he learnt 3,000
words.
"In Chinese they call it re-education camps to teach people but if they
wanted to educate, why do they handcuff people?
"They detain Kazakhs because they're Muslims. Why imprison them?
China's aim is to turn Kazakhs into Chinese. They want to erase the
whole ethnicity," he says.
It is not possible to independently verify Orynbek Koksybek's story, but
his account is similar to many documented by Human Rights Watch and other
activists.
The Chinese embassy in Kazakhstan has not replied to the BBC's request
for comment, but the Chinese authorities have been quoted in state media as
saying the camps are "vocational training centres", which aim to &#
34;get rid of an environment that breeds terrorism and religious extremism&#
34;.
The Kazakh government says that any restrictions on Chinese citizens in
China are their internal matter, and it does not interfere. However,
Kazakhstan says it will try to assist any Kazakh citizens who are detained
in China.
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标  题: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 20:50:25 2019, 美东)

太好了。我在国内见过维吾尔人的,一点不比白人的小

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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 20:51:00 2019, 美东)

是不是乌日嘎去的那种。

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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 20:53:27 2019, 美东)

主要要看是参与者是自愿去学习还是被迫去’学习‘?后者的话,和当年的各种知识分
子改造农场有什么本质差别呢?
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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 20:56:19 2019, 美东)

至于上面的这些新闻,中国政府”calls them”后面就加引号,被参访的那个calls
them后面就没有引号。这种作者立场的暗示已经不能再明显了吧?
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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 20:57:48 2019, 美东)


绝望的呐喊

不由得想起来,春节前要吃肉,就会听见一种动物绝望的呐喊

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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 22:04:36 2019, 美东)

你觉得美国轰炸日本平民和日本轰炸中国平民有什么区别?
【 在 laoafei (afei) 的大作中提到: 】
: 主要要看是参与者是自愿去学习还是被迫去’学习‘?后者的话,和当年的各种知识分
: 子改造农场有什么本质差别呢?



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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 23:00:06 2019, 美东)

缠头都是畜生
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标  题: Re: 文革中的上山下乡运动
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 11 16:11:57 2015, 美东)
好像你是支书似的
G99991 (99991) 的大作中提到: 】
: 好像你妈是知青似的!

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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 11 23:05:03 2019, 美东)

确实搞得过分了点
从一个极端走向另一个极端

[在  WCNMLGB (CCC) 的大作中提到:]
:现在西方正在美国带领下掀起反华狂潮。这个维吾尔人监禁事情正好可以被他们拿来
利用大作文章。搞不好美国会培训一大批维吾尔恐怖分子派回中国起事。
:Uighur crackdown: 'I spent seven days of hell in Chinese camps'
:The Chinese government calls them free "vocational training centres"
;; Aibota Serik, a Chinese Kazakh whose father was sent to one, calls them
:prisons.
:Her father Kudaybergen Serik was a local imam in Tarbagatay (Tacheng)
:prefecture of China's western Xinjiang region. In February 2018 the
:police detained him and Aibota hasn't heard from her father since then.
:"I don't know why my father was imprisoned. He didn't violate
:any laws of China, he was not tried in a court," she says, clutching a
:small photo of him, before breaking down in tears.
:..........
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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:02:57 2019, 美东)



造反啊,造反了正好镇压。

国家机器不是吃素的。


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发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:06:50 2019, 美东)

他是怎么逃出来的?
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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:11:45 2019, 美东)

不过土工也确实傻逼。还是自己看家的那套洗脑。尼玛汉人都洗不了,还想洗穆斯林。
整这些没用的东西给人口舌还不如啥都不做。

【 在 WCNMLGB (CCC) 的大作中提到: 】
: 现在西方正在美国带领下掀起反华狂潮。这个维吾尔人监禁事情正好可以被他们拿来利
: 用大作文章。搞不好美国会培训一大批维吾尔恐怖分子派回中国起事。
: Uighur crackdown: 'I spent seven days of hell in Chinese camps'
: The Chinese government calls them free "vocational training centres"
: ; Aibota Serik, a Chinese Kazakh whose father was sent to one, calls them
: prisons.
: Her father Kudaybergen Serik was a local imam in Tarbagatay (Tacheng)
: prefecture of China's western Xinjiang region. In February 2018 the
: police detained him and Aibota hasn't heard from her father since then.
: "I don't know why my father was imprisoned. He didn't violate
: ...................



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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:13:25 2019, 美东)

垃圾国家喜欢让他们小缠头生不让汉人生

遭报应了吧

【 在 WCNMLGB (CCC) 的大作中提到: 】
: 现在西方正在美国带领下掀起反华狂潮。这个维吾尔人监禁事情正好可以被他们拿来利
: 用大作文章。搞不好美国会培训一大批维吾尔恐怖分子派回中国起事。
: Uighur crackdown: 'I spent seven days of hell in Chinese camps'
: The Chinese government calls them free "vocational training centres"
: ; Aibota Serik, a Chinese Kazakh whose father was sent to one, calls them
: prisons.
: Her father Kudaybergen Serik was a local imam in Tarbagatay (Tacheng)
: prefecture of China's western Xinjiang region. In February 2018 the
: police detained him and Aibota hasn't heard from her father since then.
: "I don't know why my father was imprisoned. He didn't violate
: ...................




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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:23:06 2019, 美东)

这就是上头拍脑袋,下面只能迎合的后果, 权力从上到下,一旦出现习包子这种货,
立马政府变马戏团了。 美国要真出个习包子总统,光行政架构上州长就可以硬杠,更
别说议会和法院可以纠错了。

【 在 dullview (dullview) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不过土工也确实傻逼。还是自己看家的那套洗脑。尼玛汉人都洗不了,还想洗穆斯林。
: 整这些没用的东西给人口舌还不如啥都不做。



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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:31:48 2019, 美东)

以当时的条件,美国已经尽量减少对方平民的损失。而且日本国民,甚至包括青少年,
很多都在出人出力支持侵略战争,承担责任是合理的。而被侵略的中国怎么可能去和侵
略他人的日本同日而语?
至于现在在训练营里学习的维族人,是什么情况呢?比如照片里那些孩子,是精神支持
恐怖主义的么?其他参加者,都是精神支持疆独的么?

【 在 YXLM (非要昵称不可吗) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你觉得美国轰炸日本平民和日本轰炸中国平民有什么区别?



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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 01:39:27 2019, 美东)

前者是正义,唯一的不足就是当时载弹量太小,而且还没有炸弹他妈

【 在 YXLM (非要昵称不可吗) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你觉得美国轰炸日本平民和日本轰炸中国平民有什么区别?



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标  题: Re: 维吾尔人民发出了绝望的呐喊!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 12 02:20:31 2019, 美东)

  呵呵。
  美国就是故意炸日本平民的,如果不是专门屠杀平民,最低限度,也不应该用燃烧
弹轰炸城市吧?你能想出比这更高效的屠杀方法吗?
  (注:化学武器是被禁止的,除外。)

  至于维族那些孩子,你没见过他们犯罪?
  我告诉你:穆斯林普遍仇视异教徒,这是《古兰经》的基本内容。
  至于那些孩子,即便他们没学《古兰经》,也都是社会渣滓。至少我在内地大城市
里亲眼见到过的,都是。


【 在 laoafei (afei) 的大作中提到: 】
: 以当时的条件,美国已经尽量减少对方平民的损失。而且日本国民,甚至包括青少年,
: 很多都在出人出力支持侵略战争,承担责任是合理的。而被侵略的中国怎么可能去和侵
: 略他人的日本同日而语?
: 至于现在在训练营里学习的维族人,是什么情况呢?比如照片里那些孩子,是精神支持
: 恐怖主义的么?其他参加者,都是精神支持疆独的么?



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【 在 dullview (dullview) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不过土工也确实傻逼。还是自己看家的那套洗脑。尼玛汉人都洗不了,还想洗穆斯林。
: 整这些没用的东西给人口舌还不如啥都不做。



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这是移民的新渠道
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就是洗脑营。
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