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真相:美国没有"学区房"-昂贵房子使孩子有更多机会=>top univ
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在美国,没有像在中国所谓的"学区房"--买昂贵的房子,孩子们有更
多的机会去顶级大学.

"好学区"-- 有些人使用去常春藤 and 顶级大学 人数(或百分比); 一些使用半决赛学
生的人数(或百分比);一些使用College Readiness Index; 一些使用 hearsay. .....

数据,只有数据说实话。 忘了传闻 forget hearsay.
---------------------

中国孩子搬到那些超级学区, 对 semifinalist 数量增加的贡献:

=================================
Adlai E Stevenson High School (3,832 students)

year all non-Chinese Chinese Chinese/all
-------------------------------
1994 11 10 1 9%
1995 12 11 1 8%
1997 20 17 3 15%
1999 19 17 2 10%
2000 14 13 1 7%
2001 19 16 3 16%
2003 14 11 3 21%
2004 28 25 3 11%
2005 21 17 4 19%
2011 28 19 9 32%
2012 21 13 8 38%
2013 26 14 12 46%
2014 29 14 15 51%
2015 53 28 25 47%
2016 32 17 15 47%
2017 36 18 18 50%
-------------------------

NAPERVILLE NORTH H. S (3,073 students)

year all non-Chinese Chinese Chinese/all
------------------------

1992 18 18 0 0%
1994 15 11 4 27%
1995 12 11 1 8%
1997 13 10 3 23%
1999 27 21 6 22%
2000 15 9 6 40%
2001 22 15 7 31%
2003 19 11 8 42%
2004 24 14 10 41%
2005 12 8 4 33%
2011 22 18 4 18%
2012 18 13 5 28%
2013 11 9 2 18%
2014 26 13 13 50%
2015 36 18 18 50%
2016 21 11 10 48%
2017 22 12 10 45%
-------------------------

More detail:

http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_12425_t0_615177.html


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SEMIFINALISTS IN THE 2018
NATIONAL MERIT® SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM
September 13, 2017 Announcement

https://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2018-Illinois-Natl-Merit-
Semifinalists.pdf


ADLAI E. STEVENSON H. S.

21 out of 43 中国孩子 ... 50%


454 Abbott, 
200 An,
999 Bhaskar, 
999 Cao,
450 Cao, 
600 Chen, 
836 Chin, 
628 Dai, 
999 Green, 
900 Hwang, 
501 Kakuturu,
303 Kastler, 
161 Kelleher, 
700 Kim, 
907 Krakman, 
520 Lee, 
168 Liang, 
830 Lu,  S.
450 Luo,  J.
301 Madduru,  S.
450 Moparthi, 
628 Muppavarapu, 
999 Oberhaus, 
870 Pao,  L.
430 Pao,  R.
904 Patankar,  N.
904 Prazad,  R.
628 Rahman, 
600 Rapaka,  J.
833 Sharma, 
303 Shi, 
302 Simon,  B.
740 Sinkevich,  C.
303 Smyrnov, 
202 Su, 
999 Tao,  X.
740 Wang,  J.
907 Wang, 
166 Xiao,  Y.
160 Xu, 
451 Xue,  G.
740 Yoon, 
200 Yu, 

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【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: SEMIFINALISTS IN THE 2018
: NATIONAL MERIT® SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM
: September 13, 2017 Announcement
: https://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2018-Illinois-Natl-Merit-
: Semifinalists.pdf


NAPERVILLE NORTH H. S.


14 out of 20 中国孩子 ...70%


628 Chen,  X.
628 Chen,  S.
160 Fu,  J.
741 Guo, 
457 Isaac,  T.
160 Jin,  J.
999 Mathur, 
161 Moore,  T.
700 Qiao,  X.
999 Rong,  G.
900 Shi,  X.
160 Subramani, 
455 Vaughn, 
870 Wastek,  E.
740 Xia, 
999 Yang,  A.
160 Yang, 
467 Yu,  P.
999 Zhang,   Y.
459 Zheng, 

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【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: NAPERVILLE NORTH H. S.
: 14 out of 20 中国孩子 ...70%



***  NAPERVILLE NORTH H. S.


TOP 60 Colleges Class of 2014 Applied to


College..... Apply ...... Attend

University of Illinois at UrbanaChampaign  210 42
College of DuPage 200 115
Illinois State University 127 31
Indiana University at Bloomington 109 19
The University of Iowa 108 14
Northern Illinois University 99 20
University of Minnesota, Twin
Cities 98 12
Purdue University 98 12
University of Wisconsin, Madison 97 5
University of Illinois at Chicago 96 16
Marquette University 85 4
University of Michigan 69 5
University of Missouri Columbia 67 16
Northwestern University 65 8
DePaul University 58 11
Miami University, Oxford 55 4
Loyola University Chicago 53 8
Iowa State University 49 14
North Central College 46 5
University of Chicago 44 3
Southern Illinois University,
Carbondale 43 11
The Ohio State University 42 13
Washington University in St. Louis 42 3
Bradley University 38 5
Eastern Illinois University 34 3
University of Kansas 34 2
Western Illinois University 34 4
Augustana College 31 4
Case Western Reserve University 31 4
Butler University 29 2
University of Kentucky 29 4
Michigan State University 29 8
Cornell University 26 3
University of Colorado at Boulder 25 1
Carthage College 24 4
Benedictine University 22 6
University of California, Berkeley 22 2
New York University 22 2
Columbia College Chicago 21 3
Yale University 21 1
Boston University 20 2
Georgia Institute of Technology 20 0
Stanford University 20 1
University of California, San Diego 19 3
The University of Alabama 18 2
Drake University 18 1
Duke University 18 1
Lewis University 18 4
University of Nebraska at Lincoln 18 5
Vanderbilt University 18 2
University of Dayton 17 3
Princeton University 17 0
Roosevelt University 17 2
Ball State University 16 3
Brown University 16 1
Illinois Wesleyan University 16 1
Johns Hopkins University 16 0
University of Southern California 16 0

http://www.naperville203.org/cms/lib07/IL01904881/Centricity/domain/999/studentservices/docs/collegeplanningguide.pdf

page 44-45

More info:

http://www.naperville203.org/cms/lib07/IL01904881/Centricity/Domain/985/ExcellenceinEducationProgram.pdf


=========================================

Page 56"  "TOP Colleges; Class of 2015"

http://www.naperville203.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=5547&dataid=13238&FileName=CollegePlanningGuide2016.pdf


TOP Colleges Class of 2015

COLLEGE  NUMBER OF STUDENT ATTENDING
----------------------------------
College of DuPage 152
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 55
Illinois State University 27
The University of Iowa 23
University of Illinois at Chicago 20
University of Missouri Columbia 19
Indiana University at Bloomington 18
Northern Illinois University 18
DePaul University 14
Iowa State University 12
The Ohio State University 12
Purdue University 10
The University of Alabama 10
Columbia College Chicago 9
Northwestern University 9
The University of Arizona 9
Loyola University Chicago 8
Michigan State University 8
North Central College 8
Miami University, Oxford 7
Arizona State University 6
Clemson University 6
Marquette University 6
University of California, Berkeley 6
Case Western Reserve University 5
University of Michigan 5
University of Wisconsin, Madison 5
Western Illinois University 5
Arizona State University 5
University of Kentucky 4
Baylor University 4
University of Minnesota 4
Belmont University 3


NAPERVILLE NORTH H. S


TOP Colleges Class of 2016


COLLEGE NUMBER OF STUDENT ATTENDING
College of DuPage 97
University of Illinois at UrbanaChampaign 56
University of Iowa 31
Illinois State University 24
Indiana University 18
Iowa State University 18
University of Illinois, Chicago 17
University of Minnesota 12
DePaul University 11
North Central College 11
Loyola University 8
Purdue University 8
Columbia College, Chicago 7
Northwestern University 7
Augustana College 6
Benedictine University 6
Bradley University 6
Butler University 6
University of California (Berkeley) 6
University of Wisconsin (Madison) 6
Marquette University 5
University of Alabama 5
University of Colorado 5
University of Michigan 5
University of Missouri 5
University of Wisconsin
(Whitewater) 5
University of Wisconsin, Madison 5
Aurora University 4
The Ohio State University 4
Miami University (Ohio) 4
University of Kentucky 4

pg 65

https://www.naperville203.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?
moduleinstanceid=5547&dataid=13238&FileName=collegeplanningguid
e2017.pdf




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【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 中国孩子搬到那些超级学区, 对 semifinalist 数量增加的贡献:
: =================================
: Adlai E Stevenson High School (3,832 students)
: year all non-Chinese Chinese Chinese/all
: -------------------------------
: 1994 11 10 1 9%
: 1995 12 11 1 8%
: 1997 20 17 3 15%
: 1999 19 17 2 10%
: 2000 14 13 1 7%
: ...................


**原始数据**

===========================
Lake Zurich High School: (2,062 students)

class of 2011-2017: SEMIFINALISTS 2 + 6 + 1 + 4 + 7 + 1 + 6
class of 2000, 2001,2003,2004,2005: 3,9,3,2,1
class of 1992,1994,1995,1997,1999: 3, 2, 3, 1,0
=================================
Adlai E Stevenson High School (3,832 students)

class of 2011-17: SEMIFINALISTS: 28+21+26+29+53+32+36
class of 2000,2001,2003,2004,2005: 14,19,14,28,21
class of 1992,1994,1995,1997,1999: ?, 11, 12, 20, 19
=================================
Buffalo Grove High School (2,012 students)

class of 2011-17: 2+2+1+4+4+3+3
class of 2000,2001,2003,2004,2005: 2,4,2,2,7
class of 1992,1994,1995,1997,1999: 5, 6, 8, 6, 2
==============================
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-09-
15/news/9909150379_1_science-academy-chicago-area

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000-09-
13/news/0009130079_1_science-academy-national-merit-
scholarship-program-latin-school

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2002-09-
18/news/0209180203_1_semifinalists-national-merit-scholarship-
corp-christian-liberty-academy/3

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-09-
17/news/0309170143_1_semifinalists-barrington-community-
chicago/2

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-09-
15/news/0409150270_1_national-merit-scholarship-corp-
barrington-community-high-school-students
------------------------
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-09-
13/news/9103090376_1_scholastic-aptitude-test-scores-national-
merit-scholarship-program-high-school/3

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-09-
20/news/9309230344_1_national-merit-scholarship-corp-students-
driscoll/2

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-09-
15/news/9409150106_1_semifinalists-national-merit-scholarship-
preliminary-scholastic-aptitude-test/3

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-09-
19/news/9609190030_1_semifinalists/3


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-09-
18/news/9809180195_1_national-merit-scholarship-program-latin-
school/3

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【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: SEMIFINALISTS IN THE 2018
: NATIONAL MERIT® SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM
: September 13, 2017 Announcement
: https://adc.d211.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2018-Illinois-Natl-Merit-
: Semifinalists.pdf
: ADLAI E. STEVENSON H. S.



In all, 12 students at the school enrolled in the Ivy League, about 1
percent of the graduating class of 2012. One of them was Devon Naftzger, who
went to Princeton.

"From a school like Stevenson," Naftzger said, "you would expect there to be
more."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-04/news/ct-met-ivy-league-illinois-20121204_1_illinois-students-ivy-league-high-schools/3

---------------
 





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【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: In all, 12 students at the school enrolled in the Ivy League, about 1
: percent of the graduating class of 2012. One of them was Devon Naftzger,
who
:  went to Princeton.
: "From a school like Stevenson," Naftzger said, "you would expect there to
be
:  more."
: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-04/news/ct-met-ivy-league-illinois-20121204_1_illinois-students-ivy-league-high-schools/3


Only three of the schools had more than 2 percent of their graduating class
attending Ivies: Northside College Prep, a selective-enrollment school in
Chicago; Hinsdale Central High School in DuPage County; and New Trier, on
the North Shore.

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Hinsdale Central, New Trier  学区房  ??
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: ---
: Hinsdale Central, New Trier  学区房  ??


Like other ethnic groups, WASPs live in proximity of each other in close
social circles. Neighborhoods and cities with large populations of WASPs are
oftentimes the most sought after neighborhoods of the city. These areas are
largely exclusive and upper class with top private and public schools,


Chicago - North Shore, Evanston, Hinsdale, Lake Forest, Kenilworth, and
Glencoe.
Cincinnati - Indian Hill and Springboro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant


============================
Hinsdale Central 9个去常春藤,3 个读书好

2015 .. 23 semi ...

========================================================

--------------
H | Y | P | B | Col | Cor | D | Upenn |
-------------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
-------------------------------------------------
Ivy = 9 / 703 * 100% = 1.28 %

---------
Harvard: Brooke istvan 体育生 not semi ...

http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/wvball/2015-16/bios/istvan_broo

Princeton University: Ivanisevic, Stefan 体育生

http://www.goprincetontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210239
not semi ...

Princeton University: Rush, Gabrielle 体育生

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/hinsdale/sports/ct-bcr-ga
-------------------
Cor: isabella mayer (not semi ...)
Cor: Sinwell, Stephanie (finalist ..Perfect Score on ACT)

D: Chun, Steven (finalist ... Perfect Score on ACT)

http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-track-recruiting/il/hinsdale/hin

D: Grabill, Edward 体育生 not semi...

http://www.dartmouthsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=11600

Upenn: Isabella Anastassoff (not semi ...;
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/isabella-anastassoff/78/853/551

Upenn: Huang, Trevor (finalist ...)
-----------------------

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NEW TRIER TOWNSHIP H. S ... "North Shore"

"North Shore" ... WASP + Jews

: ---
: Hinsdale Central, New Trier  学区房  ??


*** NEW TRIER TOWNSHIP H. S   *** [1]

26 semi

====================================
Class of 2015, NEW TRIER TOWNSHIP H. S.

--------------
H | Y | P | M | S | B | Col | Cor | D | Upenn |
-------------------------------------------------------------
2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 |
-------------------------------------------------------------
Ivy = 23/1000 * 100% = 2.3 %
------------------

23 去常春藤的学生, 两个学生是semi ... (读书好)



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**关键点**:

在中国,大学采用唯一的标准全省规模招收学生. 因此,好的高中的更多学生被顶尖大
学录取, 许多朋友将这一概念带到美国,形成了学区房概念.

他们认为学区房的孩子有更多机会进入顶尖大学.

美国大学如何招收新生?
=====================================================
让我们先看公立大学
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美国顶尖***公立大学***如何录取本州学生 ??
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居民纳税, 所有社区应该有孩子被录取.
因此,使用GPA or/and 班级排名为标准之一,
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--- 安娜堡密西根大学:: GPA with weight ---

安娜堡密西根大学当时实施的是一个150点数的录取评价系统,....

80 points — GPA
12 points — SAT scores
10 points — Academic strength of high school
8 points — Strength of high school curriculum
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在以上评价系统中,高中的GPA占很大比重(80 points). 而不同的高中(八分或
十分)差别非常小(10 points — Academic strength of high school).
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GEOGRAPHY
10 points: Michigan resident
6 points: Underrepresented Michigan county
2 points: Underrepresented state

ALUMNI
4 points: "Legacy" (parents, step-parents)
1 point: Other (grandparents, siblings, spouses)

ESSAY
1 point: Outstanding essay (since 1999, 3 points)

PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT
5 points: National
3 points: Regional
1 point: State

LEADERSHIP & SERVICE
5 points: National
3 points: Regional
1 point: State

MISCELLANEOUS
20 points: Socio-economic disadvantage
20 points: Underrepresented racial-ethnic minority
identification or
education
5 points: Men in nursing
20 points: Scholarship athlete
20 points: Provost’s discretion

A maximum of 40 points and only one option is assigned per
category
==============================
*** UT Austin using class rank ***

Automatic Admission
Texas law offers eligible freshman applicants automatic
admission to public colleges and universities. The initial
legislation, passed into law in 1997,offered automatic
admission to eligible students in the top 10 percent of
their high school class.

In 2009, the law was modified for The University of Texas at
Austin. Under the new law, the university must automatically
admit enough students to fill75 percent of available Texas
resident spaces. Each fall, the university
notifies Texas school officials of the class rank that
currenthigh school juniors need to attain by the end of their
junior year in order to be automatically admitted.

Summer/Fall 2016 and Spring 2017 applicants: Top 8%
Summer/Fall 2017 and Spring 2018 applicants: Top 7%

http://admissions.utexas.edu/apply/decisions

=========================
UIUC
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An example:

02-14-2015 at 12:34 pm
I was rejected from CS at UIUC

SAT 2230 (800CR, 780MAT, 650 WR)
ACT 34
Top 5% class, 4.3 weighted GPA

I was accepted into the James Scholar Honors College for
General Studies at UIUC, but will most likely go to my second
choice school. I am sure I want to study CS and because so few
are allowed to transfer in at UIUC, it is toorisky for me to go
General Studies.
--------------------

"When you apply to Engineering at Illinois, you must apply to a
specific
engineering major."

http://engineering.illinois.edu/admissions/undergraduate/majors
.html

-------------------

What's Considered

Your application will be reviewed holistically, meaning a wide
variety of
factors are taken into consideration:

........

High School Class Rank

Admission into Engineering at Illinois is most selective.
Therefore it’s important to see that you have excelled
throughout high school and acted as an academic leader in your
class. If schools track high school percentile rank, it will be
reviewed with your application.

Selectivity for 2014 Admitted Freshman Engineers

Middle 50%

ACT: 31 - 34
SAT: 1400 - 1510
High School Class Rank: 93% - 99%
TOEFL: 105-113

http://engineering.illinois.edu/admissions/undergraduate/index.
html
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一个孩子,在不同的邻里高中,得到不同的GPA, class rank.

------------------
College of Engineering ACT Score: 31-34 GPA: 3.68-4.00
------------------
That means ...

25+% of freshmen admitted in "College of Engineering"..GPA
4.00!!!
That means ... 75% ... GPA > 3.68

That means ... 25+% ACT 34, 35, 36
That means ... 75+% ACT 31 - 36




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好的高中就是好就是好。
我们家孩子初中大部分课都是B,偶尔还有几个C,上了好的高中,学校组织各种义工和
体育活动,考试还全给A。能不能上名校不说,成绩单看着就好看。
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让我们先分析一下  ....美国顶尖***公立大学***如何录取本州学生 ??

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(a) 极端: 录取学生只能按标准考试  (在中国)

(b) 极端: 录取学生只能按高中班级排名(High School Class Rank, 基于GPA)  Ex.
The University of Texas at Austin.

Summer/Fall 2016 and Spring 2017 applicants: Top 8%
Summer/Fall 2017 and Spring 2018 applicants: Top 7%

http://admissions.utexas.edu/apply/decisions

在 (a) 和 (b)之间, 录取学生按 "标准考试 + GPA + etc."  ex. 安娜堡密西根大学

安娜堡密西根大学:


80 points — GPA
12 points — SAT scores
10 points — Academic strength of high school
8 points — Strength of high school curriculum

Academic strength of high school: 10分高中, 10 points..8分高中, 8 points..
Strength of high school curriculum: 很多AP, 8 points ....

不同的大学有不同的公式录取学生. 有些偏向(a), 有些偏向(b)
但是美国顶尖公立大学录取原则: 居民纳税, 所有社区应该有孩子被录取.


F = a x (标准考试) + b x (GPA) + c x (ETC)

a =1, b = c = 0  ==> (a) 极端: (在中国)

a = c = 0, b = 1 ==> (b) 极端: The University of Texas at Austin.



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现在,让我们看 美国顶尖私立大学如何招收新生?

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哈佛录取为例说明:

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2011年,哈佛录取7名 Northwest Suburban, Chicago, 读书好de学生


Example, Northwest Suburban, Chicago, IL

Northwest Suburban Academic Team

(1) Nicholas DiMaso

School: East Leyden High School (5分) [ 0 SEMIFINALISTS ]
Test scores: ACT: 33

(2) Veronica Drozdowski

School: East Leyden High School (5分) [ 0 SEMIFINALISTS ]
Test scores: ACT: 34

(3) Eilrayna Gelyana

School: Stevenson High School Hometown: Buffalo Grove (10分)

[ 28 SEMIFINALISTS | 8 perfect ACT examination score ]
Test scores: SAT: 2390

(4) Rachel Mia Kaim

School: Elk Grove High School (8分) [ 0 SEMIFINALISTS ]
Test score: SAT: 2010

(5) Roche Kapoor

School: Lake Park High School (9分) [ 3 SEMIFINALISTS ]
Test score: ACT: 35

(6) Maura Kelly

School: John Hersey High School (10分) [ 2 SEMIFINALISTS ]
Test score: ACT: 33

(7) Anthony Pensa

School: St. Viator High School (Private) [ 2 SEMIFINALISTS ]
Test scores: ACT: 34; SAT: 2180

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让我们继续上面的例子

(1) 2011年,哈佛录取7名 Northwest Suburban, Chicago, 读书好de学
生 (two from two 5分 HS, one 8分; .....)

One form "Stevenson High School"

(2) 7名读书好de学生, GPA are 4.0, but, look at those ACT/SAT
scores

Test scores: ACT: 33
Test scores: ACT: 34
Test scores: SAT: 2390
Test score: SAT: 2010
Test score: ACT: 35
Test score: ACT: 33
Test scores: ACT: 34; SAT: 2180
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现在,我们可以理解下图

GPA vs. SAT Score ...

http://features.thecrimson.com/2013/frosh-survey/admissions.html
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如果哈佛录取学生像北大那样, all students would have GPA 4.0, and
SAT very close to 2400/36.

把"Northwest Suburban, Chicago""作为一个例子, 北大, 按統一標準全州
取士, 将招收7名Stevenson High School ACT满分学生. (the "GPA vs.
SAT Score" 图将完全不同)
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In the Class of 2017:

74% of schools sent only one student.

http://www.toptieradmissions.com/ivy-league-admissions/

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income

$500K+ 14%
$250-500K 15%
$125-250K 24%
$80-125K 18%
$40-80K 15%
$40K- 15%

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/9/4/freshman-survey-admissions-aid/
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The following ... most are selective HS:

The list of schools
Here's the list of schools that had five or more kids go to
Harvard in the
freshman class of 2008-9 / senior class of 2012.

20+ students
Boston Latin -- 23 students

10-20 students
Milton Academy -- 14 students (Milton, MA)
Phillips Exeter Academy -- 14 students (Exeter, NH)
Deerfield Academy -- 12 students (Deerfield, MA)
Stuyvesant -- 12 students (New York)
Phillips Academy (Andover) -- 10 students (Andover, MA)

5-9 students
Trinity School (New York) -- 8 students
Choate Rosemary Hall (Connecticut) -- 7 students
Collegiate School (New York) -- 7 students
The Roxbury Latin School (Roxbury, MA) -- 7 students
Belmont High School (Belmont, MA) -- 6 students
Groton School (Groton, MA) -- 6 students
Horace Mann School (New York) -- 6 students
Hunter College High School (New York) -- 6 students
Lexington High School (Lexington, MA) -- 6 students
Lowell High School (San Francisco, CA) -- 6 students
Winsor School (Boston, MA) -- 6 students
Greenwich High School (Greenwich, CT) -- 5 students
The Harker School (San Jose, CA) -- 5 students
Lakeside School (Seattle, WA) -- 5 students
Pine Crest School (Ft. Lauderdale, FL) -- 5 students
Troy High School (Fullerton, CA) -- 5 students
Weston High School (Weston, MA) -- 5 students
Mayfair High School (Lakewood CA)--9 students

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【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 让我们继续上面的例子
: (1) 2011年,哈佛录取7名 Northwest Suburban, Chicago, 读书好de学
: 生 (two from two 5分 HS, one 8分; .....)
: One form "Stevenson High School"



*** 西部 ***
-------------------------
The Harvard Club of San Diego is a 501(c)3 organization.

We serve the 2800+ alumni of Harvard University who currently
reside in San
Diego and Imperial Counties.

http://www.harvardclubofsandiego.com/about.html
===================================================
San Diego County is a county located in the southwestern corner
of the state of California. As of the 2010 census, the
population was 3,095,313.[7] making it the second-most populous
county in California and the fifth-most populous in the United
States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California

Imperial County is a county located in the U.S. state of
California. As of
the 2010 census, the population was 174,528.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_County,_California

==========================================================

Class of 2017 - 2019 (3 years; 79 students from 32 HS)

(10) Bishops School *
(7) Canyon Crest Academy *
(6) La Jolla Country Day *
(5) Francis W Parker School *
(5) Torrey Pines HS 9分
(4) Coronado High School 9分
(3) Westview HS 8分
(3) Olympic High School 8分
(3) La Costa Canyon HS 8分
(3) Scripps Ranch High School 10分
(3) Central Union High School 6分
(2) Point Loma HS 7分
(2) Mt Carmel HS 7分
(2) Del Norte HS 8分
(2) Poway High School 9分
(2) Patrick Henry High School 6分
(2) La Jolla High School 8分
(1) Vista HS 5分
(1) Valley Center High School 8分
(1) Sweetwater HS 6分
(1) St. Augustine HS *
(1) Santa Fe Christian *
(1) San Diego HS Of Intl Studies 7分
(1) Orange Glen HS 5分
(1) Mar Vista HS 6分
(1) Madison HS 5分
(1) Junipero Serra HS
(1) Eastlake High School 8分
(1) Carlsbad HS 8分
(1) Canyon Crest HS *
(1) Calvin Christian HS *
(1) Bonita Vista High School 8分


==========================================================
The HCSD welcomed 20 new admits from San Diego to Harvard's
Class of 2019

Vanessa Orange Glen HS
Britni Vista HS
Emily La Costa Canyon HS
Kwangmyung Canyon Crest Academy
William Scripps Ranch HS
James Point Loma HS
Do Central Union HS
Varun La Jolla Country Day
Gha Torrey Pines HS
Flora Del Norte HS
Joy Torrey Pines HS
Olivia La Jolla Country Day
Connor Bishops School
Thomas La Costa Canyon HS
Timothy Point Loma HS
Scott Canyon Crest HS
Julio St. Augustine HS
Lisa Coronado HS
Dylan Bishops School
Nathan Carlsbad HS
--------------

Admits to the Class of 2018

Matthew La Jolla Country Day
Richa Mt Carmel HS
Eric Canyon Crest Academy
Sabrina Francis W Parker School
Michaela Francis W Parker School
Tobechukwu Mt Carmel HS
Tyler Coronado HS
Jason Westview HS
Noa Torrey Pines HS
Brad La Costa Canyon HS
Stephanie Canyon Crest Academy
Jimmie Mar Vista HS
Tina Bishops School
Samantha San Diego HS Of Intl Studies
Sonya La Jolla Country Day
Kamran Bishops School
Alex Torrey Pines HS
Korte-Nahabedian Poway HS
Ashley Sweetwater HS
Shayn Junipero Serra HS
Gabriel Bishops School
Mark Bishops School
Ajay Del Norte HS
Erik Westview HS
Regan Madison HS
Cameron Westview HS
Christian Calvin Christian HS
Zachary Francis W Parker School
Andrew Bishops School
Sara Patrick Henry HS
Preetam Francis W Parker School
Rosa Francis W Parker School
Brandon La Jolla Country Day
Catherine Canyon Crest Academy
Grace La Jolla HS
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San Diego’s Early Admits to Harvard College Class of 2017

Reece , Olympic High School
Kathryn , Santa Fe Christian
James P. , Canyon Crest Academy
Maura , Poway High School
Ryan , Coronado High School
Yong-Jun , Bishops School
Bethlehem , Scripps Ranch High School
Michelle , Torrey Pines High School
Jason , Bishops School
Giovanna , Olympic High School
Andrew , Bishops School
Karly , La Jolla High School
---

REGULAR ACTION ADMITS TO HARVARD COLLEGE CLASS OF 2017

We are proud to announce the following 12
Regular Action Admits from San Diego and
Imperial Counties to Harvard College for the
Class of 2017:

David , - Central Union High School
David - Bonita Vista High School
Ameen - Scripps Ranch High School
Alberto - Eastlake High School
Brett - Valley Center High School
Nicholas - Patrick Henry High School
Alexandra - Central Union High School
Karla - Olympic High School
Calvin - La Jolla Country Day
Claudia - Canyon Crest Academy
Kristen - Canyon Crest Academy
Wright - Coronado High School
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** 中西部 ***

Northeast Ohio


Class of 2011 - 2018 (8 years, 91 students from 42所高中)
---------
含 35 students from 12 私立高中

(7) University School *
(6) Hathaway Brown School *
(4) St. Ignatius High School *
(4) Hawken School *
(3) Western Reserve Academy *
(3) St. Edwards High School *
(2) St. Vincent - St. Mary High School *
(2) Laurel School *
(1) Walsh Jesuit High School *
(1) Ursuline High School *
(1) Lake Ridge Academy *
(1) Beaumont High School *

^^^^^^^^^^^^
56 students from 30 公立高中

(11) Shaker Heights High School 5 分

http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/shaker-heights/1353-Shaker-
Heights-High-School/

(5) Solon High School 10 分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/solon/2214-Solon-High-School/
(5) Orange High School 9分
(5) Hudson High School 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/hudson/4333-Hudson-High-School/

(3) Brecksville High School 9 分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/broadview-heights/193-
Brecksville-Broadview-Heights-High-School/

(2) Revere High School 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/richfield/4346-Revere-High-
School/

(2) Beachwood High School 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/beachwood/138-Beachwood-High-
School/

(2) Firestone High School 5分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/akron/28-Firestone-High-School/
(1) Willoughby High School

The school was split into South High and North High School

North High School (Willoughby, Ohio) 5分

http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/eastlake/1682-North-High-School/

South High School (Willoughby, Ohio) 7分

http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/willoughby/1684-South-High-
School/

(1) West Geauga High School 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/chesterland/2417-West-Geauga-
High-School/

(1) Strongsville High School 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/strongsville/1448-Strongsville-
High-School/

(1) Rocky River High School 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/rocky-river/1324-Rocky-River-
High-School/
(1) Normandy High School 7分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/parma/1271-Normandy-High-School/
(1) Mayfield High School 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/cleveland/1098-Mayfield-High-
School/
(1) Marion L Steele High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/amherst/1769-Marion-L-Steele-
High-School/
(1)) MC2 Stem HS/CMSD 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/east-cleveland/9646-MC2-Stem-
High-School/
(1) Lakewood High School 4分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/lakewood/952-Lakewood-High-
School/

(1) Howland High School 7分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/warren/4380-Howland-High-School/
(1) Copley High School 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/copley/4310-Copley-High-School/
(1) Conneaut High School 3分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/conneaut/659-Conneaut-High-
School/
(1) Columbiana High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/columbiana/1813-Columbiana-High-
School/
(1) Cloverleaf High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/lodi/3849-Cloverleaf-High-School/
(1) Cleveland School of Science and Medicine
(1) Chagrin Falls High School 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/chagrin-falls/1804-Chagrin-Falls-
High-School/
(1) Canfield High School 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/canfield/2756-Canfield-High-
School/
(1)) Buckeye Sr High School 7分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/medina/3843-Buckeye-High-School/
(1) Brunswick High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/brunswick/204-Brunswick-High-
School/
(1) Boardman High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/ohio/youngstown/2748-Boardman-High-
School/
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标  题: Re: 学区房:真相
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 21 12:50:36 2018, 美东)


*** 南方 ***

Georgia is a state located in the southeastern United States.

Population Ranked 8th
- Total 10,097,343 (2014 est)[1]
---------------------------------------------

GEORGIA CLASS OF 2018 AND THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS

, Noor N. ............North Oconee High School 10分
, Andre M ...... Norcross High School 7分
, Sarafina J ......... Atlanta Girls School *
, Adam E ...... Paideia School *
, Brynn A .............Home School
, Charles R ............Westminster Schools *
Guzman, Juan .....Centennial High School 7分
, John M ...............Westminster Schools *
, Maya L ............ Westminster Schools *
, Michael L ................Westminster Schools *
, Samuel R ...........Henry Grady High School 4分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/atlanta/61-Grady-High-Schoo
, Tony .................Brunswick High School 5分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/brunswick/1063-Brunswick-Hi
, Myles A ............Greater Atlanta Christian *
, Adriano O ...........Druid Hills High School 5分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/atlanta/720-Druid-Hills-Hig
-, Ellen R ....Alpharetta High School 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/alpharetta/3612-Alpharetta-
, William H ................Gwinnett School Math Science & Tech
10分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/lawrenceville/6497-Gwinnett
, Emily R ..........Savannah Arts Academy 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/savannah/371-Savannah-Arts-
, Madison ......... Columbus High School 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/columbus/1447-Columbus-High
, Stuart M ........Wesleyan School *
, Kevin C ........... Blessed Trinity Catholic High School *
, Joseph P ............ Westminster Schools *
, Quinn T ...Henry Grady High School 4分
, Alexander S ........Peachtree Ridge High School 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/suwanee/3060-Peachtree-Ridg
, Leesa C .........Peachtree Ridge High School 8分
, Milan .............Stephens County High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/toccoa/1665-Stephens-County
, William C ....Parkview High School 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/lilburn/1116-Parkview-High-
-, Elodie A .. Harrison High School 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/kennesaw/567-Harrison-High-
, Hemanth ........ Stratford Academy *
, Henry G .............Clarke Central High School 4分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/athens/417-Clarke-Central-H
, Mason ..............Alan C Pope High School 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/marietta/552-Pope-High-Scho
, Alexandra M ..... Westminster Schools *
, Christopher N .Westminster Schools *
, Yehong .................East Coweta High School 6分
http://www.greatschools.org/georgia/sharpsburg/643-East-Coweta-

Here is the list of our Georgia Class of 2017 and their High
Schools.


Morgan ..............................Westminster Schools *
Drew ......................Augusta Prep School *
Victoria .....................Creekview High School 9分
Andrea ..........................Campbell High School 4分
Zainub ................................The Lovett School *
Frank .................................Athens Academy *
Margaret ....................Sequoyah High School 10分
James ..........................Brookstone School *
Kendall .......Holy Innocents Episcopal School *
Adam .......................Brookwood High School 10分
Yong ...................................Mill Creek School 8分
Domenica ..................................Paideia School *
William .......................Gainesville High School 6分
Dominique ....................Heritage High School 4 or 8分
Meg .............................Westminster Schools *
Hope ...........................Westminster Augusta *
Graham ......................Westminster Schools *
Obasi .....................Northeast Ind Prep Academy *
Victor .....................................Pace Academy *
John ......................................Paideia School *
Alexandra ..........................Lowndes High School 7分
Joshua .................North Paulding High School 7分
Christopher .....................Norcross High School 7分
Claire ............................McIntosh High School 10
Lucy ...............................Wheeler High School 7分
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标  题: Re: 学区房:真相
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 21 12:52:19 2018, 美东)


*** 东部 ***

http://www.harvardclubsouthernct.org/

Southern Connecticut Results

Accepted in Early Action: 13

Accepted in Regular Admissions: 8

High Schools Represented: 16 (Choate-4; Hopkins-3; Taft;
Bunnell; Fairfield
Prep, Fairfield Ludlow; Amity; Daniel Hand; Old Lyme; East
Lyme; Academy of
our Lady, Baltic; Nonnewaug; Masuk; Cheshire; Branford;
Middletown)

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21 students from 16 HS
----------------

10 from 5 private schools:

Choate-4; Private, boarding
Hopkins-3; private, college-prep, coed day school
Academy of our Lady, a private, Roman Catholic, all-girls high
school
Taft; Private, Day & Boarding, College-prep
Fairfield Prep, Private, Preparatory


11 from 11 public schools

Bunnell; 5分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/stratford/901-Bunnell-
High-School/

Fairfield Ludlow; 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/fairfield/1831-
Fairfield-Ludlowe-High-School/

Amity; 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/woodbridge/797-Amity-
Regional-High-School/

Daniel Hand; 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/madison/454-Daniel-
Hand-High-School/

Old Lyme; 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/old-lyme/789-Lyme-Old-
Lyme-High-School/

East Lyme; 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/east-lyme/268-East-
Lyme-High-School/

Nonnewaug 8分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/woodbury/769-Nonnewaug-
High-School/

Masuk 10分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/monroe/522-Masuk-High-
School/

Cheshire 9分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/cheshire/175-Cheshire-
High-School/

Branford 7分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/branford/98-Branford-
High-School/

Middletown 4分
http://www.greatschools.org/connecticut/middletown/504-
Middletown-High-School/
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标  题: Re: 学区房:真相
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 21 12:55:06 2018, 美东)


【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: **关键点**:
: 在中国,大学采用唯一的标准全省规模招收学生. 因此,好的高中的更多学生被顶尖大
: 学录取, 许多朋友将这一概念带到美国,形成了学区房概念.
: 他们认为学区房的孩子有更多机会进入顶尖大学.
: 美国大学如何招收新生?

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所以,我们知道学区房的孩子没有比其他高中的孩子有 更多机会进入顶尖大学.

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在中国,全省是一个水池,大学使用一个标准,在这个池里,从大到小, 来网一批鱼.

在美国,每个高中 94 一个水池,大学使用一个标准,在这个池里,从大到小, 来网一批
鱼.

在美国,顶级公立大学来每个高中网一批鱼. 顶级私立大学来有些高中网一批鱼.
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所以,在高中成为鸡头很重要 !!









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